craigkillie Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 Many clubs have overseas subscriptions that existed even before the pandemic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 Outside of big games I'm a million times more likely to chuck Livi or Killie 15 quid than attempt to visit their grounds. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d31 Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 I'm not convinced the PPV's are gone for good. Let's see what happens with these league cup games (the non tv pick ones) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 There we have it - the blackout has been confirmed for the coming season. https://www.uefa.com/insideuefa/about-uefa/administration/marketing/blocked-broadcasting-hours/ Someone needs the SPFL to clarify the extent of the agreement with Sky that stops clubs from streaming their own games. If it only covers the Premiership, imposing the blackout is a ridiculous attack on much-needed revenue streams for the lower league clubs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 On 09/06/2022 at 19:30, craigkillie said: Many clubs have overseas subscriptions that existed even before the pandemic. £180 for the United one, shows all home and away league matches. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 20 hours ago, The Master said: There we have it - the blackout has been confirmed for the coming season. https://www.uefa.com/insideuefa/about-uefa/administration/marketing/blocked-broadcasting-hours/ Someone needs the SPFL to clarify the extent of the agreement with Sky that stops clubs from streaming their own games. If it only covers the Premiership, imposing the blackout is a ridiculous attack on much-needed revenue streams for the lower league clubs. Live streaming itself is an attack on the much-needed revenue streams for the lower league clubs, that was only tolerated due to the circumstances of repeated, nonsense crowd restrictions. If you want to watch games, you go to them again. That's how live events work. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy Jenkins Posted July 12, 2022 Author Share Posted July 12, 2022 (edited) 31 minutes ago, virginton said: Live streaming itself is an attack on the much-needed revenue streams for the lower league clubs, that was only tolerated due to the circumstances of repeated, nonsense crowd restrictions. If you want to watch games, you go to them again. That's how live events work. Nonsense. where ppv was available I paid full price for it and was happy to do so. For two years every team we have played has had money out of me that that they would never of had and will not now be getting. It also allowed me to watch every game, something I had not done in a long time Factor in travel costs, time etc..live football is seriously not that much of a draw anymore. If the only option is go or don't watch then for me this is where regular watching ends for me. Likely I will still manage through international subscription but that is a vastly reduced price to saints will get and a non existent revenue stream for the other clubs Edited July 12, 2022 by Shaggy Jenkins 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Shaggy Jenkins said: Nonsense. where ppv was available I paid full price for it and was happy to do so. For two years every team we have played has had money out of me that that they would never of had and will not now be getting. It also allowed me to watch every game, something I had not done in a long time Okay great. But for every person like you, there was a family buying one stream between them, or a 20 year old not buying a stream at all but using a chipped Fire stick to get their mates round with a slab of cans instead. Which is why clubs are not suddenly rolling in extra money after the tremendous success of live streaming for two years. Quote Factor in travel costs, time etc..live football is seriously not that much of a draw anymore. If the only option is go or don't watch then for me this is where regular watching ends for me. Well tough. If you want to watch a live concert, you either pay a ticket or miss out. It's 2022, that's how the sector works again. Putting Scottish football on a streaming platform against literally hundreds of thousands of alternative sources of entertainment - while clubs are guaranteed no revenue from the viewers - is not a sustainable business model. Quote Likely I will still manage through international subscription but that is a vastly reduced price to saints will get and a non existent revenue stream for the other clubs It's not all about you though. Edited July 12, 2022 by vikingTON 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 There's also the natural extension that if East Fife games are allowed to be shown at 3pm, so too are Man Utd games and Real Madrid games and all the rest, which will have a very obvious negative effect on attendances. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, craigkillie said: There's also the natural extension that if East Fife games are allowed to be shown at 3pm, so too are Man Utd games and Real Madrid games and all the rest, which will have a very obvious negative effect on attendances. Man Utd games are covered by the English Premier League’s broadcasting contracts for the UK, which doesn’t provide for Saturday 3pm games being shown live. For foreign leagues, it would rely on the UK rights holders deciding to go to the effort of broadcasting the games along with geoblocking to prevent broadcast to England (or at least, customers with English postcodes). Given that Sky charge for that to happen on their platform, I can’t see it happening. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 It's a slippery slope in that direction though - as soon as it becomes a legal option it absolutely will be explored by broadcasters. It was only a couple of years back that Eleven Sports tried to broadcast Spanish football at 3pm even with the blackout in place. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
true_rover Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 What hasn't been clarified (as far as I can tell) is whether games that aren't at 3pm on a Saturday could be shown on PPV. Specifically the lower leagues as I assume the Sky deal excludes this for the Premiership, but does the BBC deal block it for the Championship and would L1 and L2 be clear to do so? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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