Bonksy+HisChristianParade Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 2 hours ago, HailHailHayley said: Need to get real here, all of those players apart from Shaw would probably get into the Scotland side. At least the squad anyway. So I don't think I'm the one making a silly argument. Of course he should be in the Scotland squad. We’re relatively shite. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satoshi Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 McTomiany gets in both the Scotland and Man Utd side. Unlike the players mentioned above, whose world cup place will be at threat if they stay on the bench. I hope they go and play though. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordopolis Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 Starting yet again tonight... and yet again doesn't make way for Casemiro when he comes on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbieD Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 Decent performance too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2426255 Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 Was class. He's really started the season well! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 Yip did well. Still think his weaknesses are too big for him to be a regular in this side, but you could see how he's improved even from the Brighton game. He went a few years where the best manager he had was at international level so hopefully having a good one at his club will make a difference. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 13 hours ago, 2426255 said: Was class. He's really started the season well! Where are we thinking he fits in the side for the upcoming triple header? I’m not sure that RCB will happen anymore with Hendry and Souttar hopefully available, but Billy Gilmour lacking match sharpness might mean McTominay is preferred to partner Callum McGregor in central midfield. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2426255 Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Donathan said: Where are we thinking he fits in the side for the upcoming triple header? I’m not sure that RCB will happen anymore with Hendry and Souttar hopefully available, but Billy Gilmour lacking match sharpness might mean McTominay is preferred to partner Callum McGregor in central midfield. @DonathanIn my opinion it's not about a fixed position for the triple header. Just use him depending on the pre match game plan and adjust based around the game state depending how the games goes - That's what we saw in the last quadruple header and he in my view was good overall in June. I often get Man United fans saying that Scott McTominay "can't even get into the Scotland midfield" but I always respond saying this: Basically, it depends on what Steve Clarke's approach is to the game. I think he's good wherever he's played and for me is a starter and that's as far as I'd go. One thing I'd note is that when we go to a back-4 it's more often McTominay who plays as the single pivot (#6) and not as you'd maybe expect Gilmour, I thought that was worth adding. Edited September 2, 2022 by 2426255 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 I don’t see back 4 as particularly likely as long as Tierney and Robertson remain fit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2426255 Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 40 minutes ago, Donathan said: I don’t see back 4 as particularly likely as long as Tierney and Robertson remain fit. I have mentioned before I don't think it's particularly useful to look at it in that way but I won't go into that and to answer your question I wouldn't rule it out totally, but it would be a change from what's gone before if we start with a back-4. I think we've seen evidence that Scotland would rather start with a back-3, that's quite clear. If games aren't going as planned and we require to take more risks then I think we might see a change during any particular game. I don't think the McTominay' s performances in midfield for Manchester Utd will affect the decision though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 1 hour ago, 2426255 said: I have mentioned before I don't think it's particularly useful to look at it in that way but I won't go into that and to answer your question I wouldn't rule it out totally, but it would be a change from what's gone before if we start with a back-4. I think we've seen evidence that Scotland would rather start with a back-3, that's quite clear. If games aren't going as planned and we require to take more risks then I think we might see a change during any particular game. I don't think the McTominay' s performances in midfield for Manchester Utd will affect the decision though. It won’t affect the decision to play a back three, but it might well get him a spot in the midfield, particularly if Gilmour takes time to settle in on the south coast 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2426255 Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 58 minutes ago, Donathan said: It won’t affect the decision to play a back three, but it might well get him a spot in the midfield, particularly if Gilmour takes time to settle in on the south coast Not sure how much club form is factored in. I am aware Steve Clarke has given mixed signals about how much he cares about club form. If guessing I'd say he'll look at all his midfielders in training at the Oriam and select the combination that best fits into his game plan for each individual match. The same argument about Billy Gilmour could be made about John Souttar and Jack Hendry who have had ropey starts to the season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Saintsible Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 Another full 90 minutes as Man United beat leaders Arsenal. McTominay is undoubtedly our best midfielder and should be the first midfielder named on the team sheet 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinabear Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 Playing really well at the moment. Clarke really needs to play him at centre mid. Mctominay/Gilmour/mcginn. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delicate Flower Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 2 hours ago, edinabear said: Playing really well at the moment. Clarke really needs to play him at centre mid. Mctominay/Gilmour/mcginn. Your logic seems to be based on McTominay playing really well. You kind of lose it a bit, therefore, by having the currently non-playing Gilmour over the currently excellent McGregor. Baffling. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velo army Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 McGregor is Scotland's best midfielder. Utter madness dropping him for anyone. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 17 minutes ago, Delicate Flower said: Your logic seems to be based on McTominay playing really well. You kind of lose it a bit, therefore, by having the currently non-playing Gilmour over the currently excellent McGregor. Baffling. I think one of Gilmour (completely lacking match sharpness) or even McGinn (out of form) need to be sent to the bench for Ukraine at home in a couple of weeks. McTominay is on good form in central midfield and has earned the right to start there. McGregor is pretty much unstoppable for me, he’s an absolutely vital ball carrier, dropping deep to support the back three. Having said that, Souttar and Hendry are both nowhere to be seen for their respective clubs we are potentially light at RCB which could point to a McTominay start in that role again. I worry that Zinchenko will make absolute mincemeat of him like he did in the playoff. Robertson has started the season poorly and Tierney is hardly getting a game for Arsenal so I’m wondering if it might even be worth changing the shape to a 4-2-3-1 for this game. Ukraine had the measure of the 3-5-2 and I’m not sure it’s worth playing a system that’s only there as a method of shoehorning them both into the team. Gordon Patterson-Hanley-McKenna-Robertson McTominay-McGregor Christie-McGinn-Armstrong Adams -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 1 hour ago, velo army said: McGregor is Scotland's best midfielder. Utter madness dropping him for anyone. Especially if it's the first and most winnable group match of Euro 2020 at Hampden..... -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 He hadn't shown nearly the same form for Scotland or Celtic at that point, it's a totally different story compared to now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinabear Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 5 hours ago, Delicate Flower said: Your logic seems to be based on McTominay playing really well. You kind of lose it a bit, therefore, by having the currently non-playing Gilmour over the currently excellent McGregor. Baffling. It is absolutely impossible to judge the ability of McGregor until he finds some ambition and moves south. He has regularly underperformed in Europe also. Mctominay is playing well at a far higher level. But the great tactician Steve Clarke will play him at centre half. Baffling -7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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