Burnieman Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 11 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said: Don't see why the 2nd wouldn't go down to 16. It should. The Third is the division that can accommodate probably 18 clubs, so if it goes upto 12 (all things being equal) for 23-24, then still plenty of space for any new applicants and to accommodate extra clubs bumped down from above as I'm assuming the EoS could be taking in a few new clubs from the LL over the next few seasons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Burnieman said: It should. The Third is the division that can accommodate probably 18 clubs, so if it goes upto 12 (all things being equal) for 23-24, then still plenty of space for any new applicants and to accommodate extra clubs bumped down from above as I'm assuming the EoS could be taking in a few new clubs from the LL over the next few seasons. For the sake of getting the Third Division away from being a West Lothian league, it really needs to be four (or five with a net LL gain) down. On current form it would be this for 23-24: Newburgh *if net gain from LL Ormiston Peebles Rovers Hawick Royal Albert United Craigroyston Stoneyburn Livingston United Edinburgh College West Calder United Fauldhouse United Bathgate Thistle Pumpherston Juniors Harthill 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnieman Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 5 hours ago, Ginaro said: For the sake of getting the Third Division away from being a West Lothian league, it really needs to be four (or five with a net LL gain) down. On current form it would be this for 23-24: Newburgh *if net gain from LL Ormiston Peebles Rovers Hawick Royal Albert United Craigroyston Stoneyburn Livingston United Edinburgh College West Calder United Fauldhouse United Bathgate Thistle Pumpherston Juniors Harthill Doesn't look good for Newburgh! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passthebaw Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 On 28/05/2022 at 23:18, Ginaro said: The rankings at http://scotscores.theroonba.com/clubrank/clubrankepr.html and other pages have been updated to show the new linear leagues. Apart from VOL and the Second/Third Division top 2 it's quite tight everywhere, which is to be expected now we finally have tiers 6-9 sorted. Premier - Linlithgow winners; Mussleburgh, Oakley, VOL relegated. First - Dunipace, Kirkcaldy & Dysart, Glenrothes top 3; Burntisland, Coldstream, Rosyth bottom 3. Second - Whitburn, Syngenta, Heriot-Watt top 3; Ormiston, Peebles, Hawick, Craigroyston bottom 4 Third - Bo'ness and Armadale If you're going to relegate us, at least spell our name correctly - Musselburgh I have my reservations about us this season, but I'd wager large we won't be relegated. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 28 minutes ago, Passthebaw said: If you're going to relegate us, at least spell our name correctly - Musselburgh I have my reservations about us this season, but I'd wager large we won't be relegated. Whoops Well, since December you've only picked up two league wins (Camelon and LTV) and three draws, need to improve on that form to stay up... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passthebaw Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Ginaro said: Whoops Well, since December you've only picked up two league wins (Camelon and LTV) and three draws, need to improve on that form to stay up... Hence the significant change in personnel! Have faith! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumphyman Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 4 hours ago, Burnieman said: Doesn't look good for Newburgh! I remember Newburgh had choice to play in Dundee leagues or East League and they chose the latter. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dev Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 11 hours ago, Burnieman said: Doesn't look good for Newburgh! First the EoS clubs keep the last tranch of the Juniors down, creating a bottleneck at the head of their Conference/Division. This even after a season which has shown how blatantly unfair this is. Next they show they're not too bothered about a number of the less successful clubs from outside the Lothians. The League clubs should check out the informal Playing Rankings and the informal average attendances (i.e. support) rankings and do the right thing now. Otherwise this imbalance is going to last for a minimum three seasons - which has always been completely unnecessary. -10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted June 8, 2022 Author Share Posted June 8, 2022 In the Lowland Forum 20 hours ago, Dev said: If it is for "ONE SEASON ONLY" then the "RECOMMENDATIONS PROPOSED AHEAD OF THE 2023/24 SEASON" part doesn't make sense. This is because it suggests that the recommendations would come into being in time for the start of the 2023/24 season. To do that they need to be agreed ahead of the start of the 2022/23 season. This is standard practice. That's why leagues have AGM's etc to make changes to the structures, rules, regulations etc.. It is so that clubs/teams know what they are playing for i.e. promotions and relegations. 10 hours ago, Dev said: You cannot have change by the start of 23/24 unless it is all sorted and approved a season ahead. Clubs have to know which position in the league table means promotion/safety/relegation before a league season even starts. Meanwhile in the EoS its the same old just make it up and force it through it because...??? 17 minutes ago, Dev said: First the EoS clubs keep the last tranch of the Juniors down, creating a bottleneck at the head of their Conference/Division. This even after a season which has shown how blatantly unfair this is. Next they show they're not too bothered about a number of the less successful clubs from outside the Lothians. The League clubs should check out the informal Playing Rankings and the informal average attendances (i.e. support) rankings and do the right thing now. Otherwise this imbalance is going to last for a minimum three seasons - which has always been completely unnecessary. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnieman Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Dev said: First the EoS clubs keep the last tranch of the Juniors down, creating a bottleneck at the head of their Conference/Division. This even after a season which has shown how blatantly unfair this is. Next they show they're not too bothered about a number of the less successful clubs from outside the Lothians. The League clubs should check out the informal Playing Rankings and the informal average attendances (i.e. support) rankings and do the right thing now. Otherwise this imbalance is going to last for a minimum three seasons - which has always been completely unnecessary. Ah, so NOW you want things to change AFTER the season has been completed under rules agreed a year ago, and based on some gadgies made-up rankings? You really need to let this obsession go. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patriot1 Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 Should we be worried about this “pyramid review”? Too many “established” teams dropping out the SPFL for the bigwigs liking? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patriot1 Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 On a different note I’m surprised to see Oakley part company with their management team after exceeding all expectations this season. Any word on what’s happened? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsimButtHitsASix Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 Sounds like usual pish chat to try and explain away selling their souls from Old Firm money. They'll cobble together another shite re-jig of the league proposal that the clubs will vote no to 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnieman Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 39 minutes ago, patriot1 said: Should we be worried about this “pyramid review”? Too many “established” teams dropping out the SPFL for the bigwigs liking? East of Scotland members are in control of what happens within their league, nobody else. However, I can see this whole shit show boiling down to "if you want more promotion to the LL, accept B teams" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 2 hours ago, patriot1 said: Should we be worried about this “pyramid review”? Too many “established” teams dropping out the SPFL for the bigwigs liking? Do you think they really care Cowdenbeath or the next holders of the wooden spoon drop out? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Jones Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 9 hours ago, Dev said: First the EoS clubs keep the last tranch of the Juniors down, creating a bottleneck at the head of their Conference/Division. This even after a season which has shown how blatantly unfair this is. Next they show they're not too bothered about a number of the less successful clubs from outside the Lothians. The League clubs should check out the informal Playing Rankings and the informal average attendances (i.e. support) rankings and do the right thing now. Otherwise this imbalance is going to last for a minimum three seasons - which has always been completely unnecessary. ToT - Toddle of Twat. How thick are you? A broken record who keeps of scratching the same dirge. You are alone in your own wee world. The only ones that kept the last tranch of Juniors down are the teams themselves for reasons repeatedly told to you. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyramidic Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 League structure for 2022/3; Premier Division Blackburn United Broxburn Athletic Crossgates Primrose Dundonald Bluebell Haddington Athletic Hill of Beath Hawthorn Inverkeithing Hillfield Swifts Jeanfield Swifts Linlithgow Rose Lothian Thistle HH Musselburgh Athletic Oakley United Penicuik Athletic Sauchie Juniors Tynecastle Vale of Leithen First Division Burntisland Shipyard Camelon Juniors Coldstream Dunbar United Dunipace Glenrothes Kennoway Star Hearts Kinnoull Kirkcaldy & Dysart Leith Athletic Lochore Welfare Luncarty Newtongrange Star Preston Athletic Rosyth Whitehill Welfare Second Division Arniston Rangers Craigroyston Dalkeith Thistle Easthouses Lily MW Edinburgh South Edinburgh United Hawick RA Heriot Watt University Lochgelly Albert Newburgh Juniors Ormiston Primrose Peebles Rovers St Andrews United Stirling University EoS Syngenta Thornton Hibs Tweedmouth Rangers Whitburn Third Division Armadale Thistle Bathgate Thistle Bo'ness Athletic Edinburgh College Fauldhouse United Harthill Royal Livingston United Pumpherston Stoneyburn West Calder United What relegation and promotion was agreed at last night’s AGM? Particularly between Divisions Two and Three? Last edited: 44 minutes ago 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nittenrab Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Pyramidic said: League structure for 2022/3; Premier Division Blackburn United Broxburn Athletic Crossgates Primrose Dundonald Bluebell Haddington Athletic Hill of Beath Hawthorn Inverkeithing Hillfield Swifts Jeanfield Swifts Linlithgow Rose Lothian Thistle HH Musselburgh Athletic Oakley United Penicuik Athletic Sauchie Juniors Tynecastle Vale of Leithen First Division Burntisland Shipyard Camelon Juniors Coldstream Dunbar United Dunipace Glenrothes Kennoway Star Hearts Kinnoull Kirkcaldy & Dysart Leith Athletic Lochore Welfare Luncarty Newtongrange Star Preston Athletic Rosyth Whitehill Welfare Second Division Arniston Rangers Craigroyston Dalkeith Thistle Easthouses Lily MW Edinburgh South Edinburgh United Hawick RA Heriot Watt University Lochgelly Albert Newburgh Juniors Ormiston Primrose Peebles Rovers St Andrews United Stirling University EoS Syngenta Thornton Hibs Tweedmouth Rangers Whitburn Third Division Armadale Thistle Bathgate Thistle Bo'ness Athletic Edinburgh College Fauldhouse United Harthill Royal Livingston United Pumpherston Stoneyburn West Calder United What relegation and promotion was agreed at last night’s AGM? Particularly between Divisions Two and Three? Last edited: 44 minutes ago Whitburn & Syngenta are in for an easy Division 2 next season, I can only see them dropping points to each other. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted June 10, 2022 Author Share Posted June 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, Nittenrab said: Whitburn & Syngenta are in for an easy Division 2 next season, I can only see them dropping points to each other. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsimButtHitsASix Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 7 hours ago, Pyramidic said: What relegation and promotion was agreed at last night’s AGM? Particularly between Divisions Two and Three? Last edited: 44 minutes ago Wouldn't go that far but it looks like a league where about three quarters will have minus goal difference by the end of the season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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