2426255 Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said: Why are you posting a picture of a back 5. oh dear, don't you mean a back 3? is it a three, is it a four or is it a five? Edited May 23, 2022 by 2426255 -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacky1990 Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 1 minute ago, 2426255 said: oh dear, don't you mean a back 3? is it a three, is it a four or is it a five? We play a back 5 and have done for more than 2 years now. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacky1990 Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, greenockraver said: Its possible taylor could start the ukraine game as robo is playing the CL final. Only if he gets injured. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacky1990 Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 49 minutes ago, Scotty Tunbridge said: I think Marshall is again in as a legacy pick to get him to 50 caps due to how much Clark likes him, given injury prevented him playing for QPR towards the end of the season. If anything happened to Gordon and it was a choice between Marshall, Kelly and Clark, I'd 100% rather Marshall in goals If legacy pick you mean a legacy of being a very reliable goalkeeper for us in the past year, then you are correct. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted May 23, 2022 Author Share Posted May 23, 2022 (edited) 30 minutes ago, greenockraver said: Its possible taylor could start the ukraine game as robo is playing the CL final. I don’t see Robertson being rested for such an important game but if he plays the CL final and the Ukraine game, and we do well enough to win that, and he subsequently plays in Cardiff too, there’s a 0% chance he’s playing three UNL games in a week. Taylor or Hickey will 100% start the Armenia game unless we lose to Ukraine and he gets his rest between Ukraine and Armenia. Edited May 23, 2022 by Donathan 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Tunbridge Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, nessies long lost ghost said: Maybe I personally think Marshall is better than Zander Clarke and Liam Kelly 22 minutes ago, Jacky1990 said: If anything happened to Gordon and it was a choice between Marshall, Kelly and Clark, I'd 100% rather Marshall in goals If legacy pick you mean a legacy of being a very reliable goalkeeper for us in the past year, then you are correct. Totally, I’d also rather him over Kelly or Clark currently. However S. Clark has given off vibes previously that players need to be playing regularly to get in the squad which he hadn’t been doing. I did state elsewhere on here a while ago that if Marshall could get a starting get at another Championship club or Scottish Premiership side for next season he’d be putting himself right back in contention. Which he has had done as you’d imagine he wouldn’t have signed for hibs without the assurance he’d be their starter. So hopefully he gets atleast 1 of the nation league games. It would be a real shame for him not to break 50 caps for us. Edited May 23, 2022 by Scotty Tunbridge 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted May 23, 2022 Author Share Posted May 23, 2022 28 minutes ago, 2426255 said: oh dear, don't you mean a back 3? is it a three, is it a four or is it a five? 25 minutes ago, Jacky1990 said: We play a back 5 and have done for more than 2 years now. Back three and back five are entirely synonymous terms. Three centre halves and two wing backs. Some people consider wing backs to be part of the defence and some consider them midfielders but either way, 3-5-2 and 5-3-2 are the exact same formation (or 3-4-3/5-2-3) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 Totally, I’d also rather him over Kelly or Clark currently. However S. Clark has given off vibes previously that players need to be playing regularly to get in the squad which he hadn’t been doing. I did state elsewhere on here a while ago that if Marshall could get a starting get at another Championship club or Scottish Premiership side for next season he’d be putting himself right back in contention. Which he has had done as you’d imagine he wouldn’t have signed for hibs without the assurance he’d be their starter. So hopefully he gets atleast 1 of the nation league games. It would be a real shame for him not to break 50 caps for us.Marshall coming on for a couple of penalty shoot-outs would be a better way to push him closer to 50 than an Allan McGregor-esque cameo IMO. Then start him against Armenia. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 Just realised we don't have McLean for penalties. Ferguson and Stewart have v good records though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewan8472 Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 5 hours ago, nessies long lost ghost said: Assuming all are fit enough to start against Ukraine - I would go Gordon Hendry Cooper McKenna Patterson Robertson Gilmour McGregor McGinn Armstrong / Christie Adams If all are fit ( enough ) Souttar RCB 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewan8472 Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 4 hours ago, Donathan said: I wouldn’t rule out going to a back four. The 3-5-2/3-4-3 was implemented to fit KT and Robertson together so KT being absent could mean 4-3-3 is preferable Gordon Patterson-Hendry-Hanley-Robertson McTominay-Gilmour-McGregor McGinn-Dykes-Adams Of course, playing that lineup could easily switch to the 3-5-2 in game by just asking McTominay to drop back Mmmm , with Tierney out SSC might risk McTominay at RCB 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewan8472 Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 4 hours ago, Donathan said: 3 options for what to do about Tierney, do you directly replace him with McKenna/Cooper/Hendry/Souttar, bring Robertson into LCB (with Taylor or Hickey at LWB) or change the formation altogether and have Robertson on the left side of a back four? Your first option - McKenna -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewan8472 Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 3 hours ago, TeeMan said: I think it will be Cooper against Ukraine, McKenna will be in the Playoff final on Sunday. Mmmm , forgot about that ! -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2426255 Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 On 23/05/2022 at 18:43, Jim McLean's Ghost said: Why are you posting a picture of a back 5. O'Donnell as the RWB is pushed up ready to engage the number 5 when he gets the ball Robertson at LWB is tucked in with the ball on the opposite side of the park and sitting a bit deep to stop a dangerous ball being played in behind him to the winger The 3 centre backs are holding a solid line. On 23/05/2022 at 18:55, Jacky1990 said: We play a back 5 and have done for more than 2 years now. On 23/05/2022 at 19:21, Donathan said: Back three and back five are entirely synonymous terms. Three centre halves and two wing backs. Some people consider wing backs to be part of the defence and some consider them midfielders but either way, 3-5-2 and 5-3-2 are the exact same formation (or 3-4-3/5-2-3) I don't agree. Steve Clarke's team don't hold a fixed shape the whole way through a match - They adjust their shape during a game based around various different factors. Whether you want to label it a 433, 451, 532, 352, 3412, 3421, 343, 523 is not important. It's like anything, you can't just slap a label on a fairly complicated system and expect it to cover it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pie Of The Month Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Ireland squad announced today. Tempting fate but their squad looks awful these days. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 It's a lot of young energetic guys who might go on to have good careers or might be shite, perhaps shades of the Vogts era or even McLeish part two. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuttonDressedAsLahm Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 24 minutes ago, Pie Of The Month said: Ireland squad announced today. Tempting fate but their squad looks awful these days. ROI are in a similar position to where we were in 2018. Their Luxembourg result was similar to ours in Kazakhstan. The difference is that our younger and senior players were still at a higher level than their squad. I suspect their 'recovery' as it were, will be less meteoric. On the ROI Reddit, there's a post stating that 21-22 was the lowest number of ROI player hours in the English Premier League in living memory. It rings true when you consider that only Coleman and Doherty have any real profile. And in the instance of this squad, the former is ageing, and the latter is injured. It's notable that of their 7 Premier League players, one is a promoted GK, two others are reserve GKs, two others are young squad players, and the other two are Duffy and Coleman. The rest are Championship and League One players. That seems to be a fairly low level, but then the Wales squad has a very similar make up, and look how they play. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2426255 Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Pie Of The Month said: Tempting fate but their squad looks awful these days. 1 hour ago, HuttonDressedAsLahm said: That seems to be a fairly low level, but then the Wales squad has a very similar make up, and look how they play. People always say this kind of thing. It's all about how well they work as a team. Remember our games against Moldova, Faroe Islands, Luxembourg and Israel if you want to shake yourself out of thinking it will be a gimme. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pie Of The Month Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 13 hours ago, 2426255 said: People always say this kind of thing. It's all about how well they work as a team. Remember our games against Moldova, Faroe Islands, Luxembourg and Israel if you want to shake yourself out of thinking it will be a gimme. We really don't need another international break of you boring the forum to death about underestimating the opposition but thanks anyway. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted May 26, 2022 Author Share Posted May 26, 2022 Ireland won’t be a “gimme” but failing to take at least 4 points from them in the UNL would be very disappointing. We should really be looking to win that section if we harbour ambitions to become regulars at the World Cup/knockout stages of the euros in the coming years 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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