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🇱🇻 Arbroath v ICTFC 🇱🇺 - WILLIE COLLUM IN THE MUD


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5 minutes ago, SandyCromarty said:

It seemed to work for us, I'm sure I don't need to remind you of the result.

Well yes it did work for you but perhaps if you read the post i was replying too you might understand why i posted that reply about controling the game.

And as stan3600 says good luck against the Saints far better for us if Inverness weren't in our league.

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31 minutes ago, Sir Tarmo said:

Arbroath fans were getting way above their station anyway. A glorified Forfar Athletic. Bunch of diddies who can go back to enjoying a relegation battle next season. Good riddance. 

Getting above their station🤣....are you an entitled Invernessian.

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2 hours ago, stan3600 said:


It’s a good line but I haven’t found yet the post where an Arbroath fan calls it a lottery.

 

5 hours ago, farflung lichtie said:

Winning the penalty lottery doesn’t really offer a strong platform to claim to be a footballing side.

 

12 hours ago, farflung lichtie said:

All that said, it may be a blessing in disguise that we didn’t progress, especially through the lottery of penalties.  

 

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4 hours ago, keptie said:

Well yes it did work for you but perhaps if you read the post i was replying too you might understand why i posted that reply about controling the game.

And as stan3600 says good luck against the Saints far better for us if Inverness weren't in our league.

100% hope you get promoted....cos you bring very little to the table  

 

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11 hours ago, stan3600 said:


No and no, which should be top of our priority list to fix.

As long as Dick is in charge it won't change as he sees youth football a waste of resources which could be spent on paying experienced players the money they demand. 

Talking through experience ;)

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Not sure what the discussion about penalty shootouts ‘being a lottery’ is about to be honest.   It seems bizarre to describe them as anything other than a fairly random throw of the dice, whether win or lose?   And we used that very term in the second half on the terraces  before it came down to that outcome.  Hence, you win some, you lose some - and hope the balance of probabilities even itself out over the long run.   I have no issues with us losing out on penalties the other night, some disappointment offset by relief at the bigger/longerterm picture.  And I hope ICT win the final only for the self-interested reason that St Johnstone would offer local games and bigger crowds next season - plus the fact ICT are the only team we’ve struggled to make much impact on this season.

I’m still really dubious about using penalties to decide MAJOR finals though not games like Fridays.  Maybe still a case for replays or even sharing of a trophy rather than awarding on the basis of this lottery. And of course, the term lottery might not be entirely accurate - penalty taking and saving skills can be worked on.  

I hope that’s clarified it.  Well done ICT for dogged defence and winning thro on the penalty lottery (rumour has it you had practised in training so maybe chances in that particular lottery was skewed - so credit for excellent preparation) and good luck in the final.

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On 16/05/2022 at 09:18, farflung lichtie said:

I’m still really dubious about using penalties to decide MAJOR finals though not games like Fridays.  Maybe still a case for replays or even sharing of a trophy rather than awarding on the basis of this lottery.

team america vomit GIF

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9 hours ago, 1320Lichtie said:

How could you possibly celebrate a shared trophy 🤣

Ask the joint winners of the first Scottish league title in 1893 while lots of sports have tied series so not an entirely unknown concept. I assume the teams share a calm satisfaction over their shared achievement, possibly a more mature reaction than the increasingly stage-managed and mandated festivities.  No platform, podiums or even helicopters for Arbroath promotions in the 60s and 70s.  Not necessarily the preferred resolution (that would be a replay) but in many ways much fairer than the farce of a penalty lottery deciding a major final.

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53 minutes ago, farflung lichtie said:

Ask the joint winners of the first Scottish league title in 1893 while lots of sports have tied series so not an entirely unknown concept. I assume the teams share a calm satisfaction over their shared achievement, possibly a more mature reaction than the increasingly stage-managed and mandated festivities.  No platform, podiums or even helicopters for Arbroath promotions in the 60s and 70s.  Not necessarily the preferred resolution (that would be a replay) but in many ways much fairer than the farce of a penalty lottery deciding a major final.

I rather enjoyed the penalty shootout Iv just watched in Seville 

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1 hour ago, farflung lichtie said:

Ask the joint winners of the first Scottish league title in 1893 while lots of sports have tied series so not an entirely unknown concept. I assume the teams share a calm satisfaction over their shared achievement, possibly a more mature reaction than the increasingly stage-managed and mandated festivities.  No platform, podiums or even helicopters for Arbroath promotions in the 60s and 70s.  Not necessarily the preferred resolution (that would be a replay) but in many ways much fairer than the farce of a penalty lottery deciding a major final.

Life isn’t fair. Sport isn’t fair

 

Joint winners of something sounds absolutely awful. If that game tonight finished at 120 minutes shared what fan would actually be satisfied with that? There’s got to be a winner celebrating and a loser upset otherwise the whole idea of competition means nothing

 

There are loads of variables and luck in football that could go for you or against you 

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On 16/05/2022 at 09:18, farflung lichtie said:

I hope that’s clarified it.  Well done ICT for dogged defence and winning thro on the penalty lottery (rumour has it you had practised in training so maybe chances in that particular lottery was skewed - so credit for excellent preparation) and good luck in the final.

It would only be skewed if Arbroath didn’t practice penalties. And if they didn’t then they deserved to lose anyway given the nature of playoffs where a penalty shootout is fairly likely.

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It couldn't be any worse than Tuesday where after Extra Time, Worcester Warriors won a trophy after drawing 25 all on the basis they scored more tries!

Edited by Caley Shaun
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2 hours ago, farflung lichtie said:

Ask the joint winners of the first Scottish league title in 1893 while lots of sports have tied series so not an entirely unknown concept. I assume the teams share a calm satisfaction over their shared achievement, possibly a more mature reaction than the increasingly stage-managed and mandated festivities.  No platform, podiums or even helicopters for Arbroath promotions in the 60s and 70s.  Not necessarily the preferred resolution (that would be a replay) but in many ways much fairer than the farce of a penalty lottery deciding a major final.

Of course fans of complete no-marks like Arbroath would advocate sharing trophies after their bubble has just been burst by serial winners The Caley. 
 

You had your ‘nearly moment’ this season. Be proud of your team, regroup and come back and support your side in their relegation battle next season. They’ll need all the luck they can get. 

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10 hours ago, Sir Tarmo said:

Of course fans of complete no-marks like Arbroath would advocate sharing trophies after their bubble has just been burst by serial winners The Caley. 
 

You had your ‘nearly moment’ this season. Be proud of your team, regroup and come back and support your side in their relegation battle next season. They’ll need all the luck they can get. 

What a dick.

 

ETA  -  …..and thanks for the wee rid dot, virginton.  😁 Utterly preDICKtable.   👍  😜😜😜

 

 

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9 hours ago, Nightmare said:

It would only be skewed if Arbroath didn’t practice penalties. And if they didn’t then they deserved to lose anyway given the nature of playoffs where a penalty shootout is fairly likely.

Arbroath players would of course have been down the coal mines all week, rather than practicing penalties. 

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16 hours ago, farflung lichtie said:

Ask the joint winners of the first Scottish league title in 1893 while lots of sports have tied series so not an entirely unknown concept. I assume the teams share a calm satisfaction over their shared achievement, possibly a more mature reaction than the increasingly stage-managed and mandated festivities.  No platform, podiums or even helicopters for Arbroath promotions in the 60s and 70s.  Not necessarily the preferred resolution (that would be a replay) but in many ways much fairer than the farce of a penalty lottery deciding a major final.

Straws clutching and wet morning pillows.

It's over.

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