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5 hours ago, oneteaminglasgow said:

“Didn’t even want to get promoted anyway” is it? 

Personally, and speaking only for myself….no.  There’s a real difference between winning a title and being promoted for one thing.  But a season of struggle in the SPL has almost no appeal plus the other serious inconveniences (playing the OF, segregation) would simply drain any enjoyment of the weekly football.  Games need to be reasonably competitive to sustain interest (one reason the Championship is generally preferable from any team’s perspective).   Even here I miss some of the more interesting grounds and opponents of the seaside leagues. Of course no club/team can stand still so the need to evolve and progress must be present or soon enough the downward slide will set in (many recent examples of similar clubs to ours).  

So it all depends what you want supporting your club.  A small fish in a medium rather than large pond seems fine to me. Even the management would be facing difficult decisions if promoted (or major turnover of playing squad, full time/hybrid options, finance) but this longtime supporter is suitably relieved.

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30 minutes ago, farflung lichtie said:

Personally, and speaking only for myself….no.  There’s a real difference between winning a title and being promoted for one thing.  But a season of struggle in the SPL has almost no appeal plus the other serious inconveniences (playing the OF, segregation) would simply drain any enjoyment of the weekly football.  Games need to be reasonably competitive to sustain interest (one reason the Championship is generally preferable from any team’s perspective).   Even here I miss some of the more interesting grounds and opponents of the seaside leagues. Of course no club/team can stand still so the need to evolve and progress must be present or soon enough the downward slide will set in (many recent examples of similar clubs to ours).  

So it all depends what you want supporting your club.  A small fish in a medium rather than large pond seems fine to me. Even the management would be facing difficult decisions if promoted (or major turnover of playing squad, full time/hybrid options, finance) but this longtime supporter is suitably relieved.

Even though I would have loved a crack at the Premiership and desperately wanted us to go up, I do get what you’re saying.

Realistically we would have been saying goodbye to a chunk of our great squad - many of them very good players who deserve longer at the club. Also the feel good factor around the club would be sorely tested when you’re potentially getting well beaten most weeks.

I’m sure the last few weeks has taught the players and management team some big lessons and hopefully that bodes well for next season.

The Championship is looking weaker next season than this, we’ve nothing to fear and there’s no reason we can’t be up towards the pointy end again.

Also, after feeling a bit down last night and this morning, I’m feeling great about where we are. Challenging for the title, very close to the playoff final, a massively increased profile for the club, great things happening off the park as well as on, and the whole town (and beyond) behind us - all in all a pretty great time to be a Lichtie.

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The only thing the Premiership is good for the is money your club earns. For the fans, it’s mostly shite imo.

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Sad to see some real bitterness seeping in from a few Arbroath fans.
I don't think Arbroath fans have anything to bitter about. We went into the last 2 games of the season with the league title in our own hands. We fell short by a narrow margin and again in the playoffs but we had an excellent season and can be proud of the effort all the players made. It was a free hit for us and we will be back next season to try again.
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1 hour ago, farflung lichtie said:

Whattt? ICT barely crossed the halfway line in two of the halves (of the 4 in the two ties so dwe saw only the most fleeting glances of these silky skills you imply while of course you had the excuse of going a man down so that justified hanging on for penalties - which looked like ICT strategy from the outset.  No team with Broadfoot in it can claim to be a footballing side.  But yes ICT are athletic and physical.  The fact is Arbroath didn’t show composure at key moments, didn’t exploit the player numerical advantage and didn’t get the break of the ball but only one team was actually trying to win that (even when 11 against 11).  Winning the penalty lottery doesn’t really offer a strong platform to claim to be a footballing side.

I’m relieved our great season is over and won’t bother watching the final due to its probable lack of entertainment value and football talent.

Absolute nonsense. We certainly didn't play well last night but the wind, in the first half contributed to that for us. Poor play from us to keep punting high balls up to Samuel as they just came straight back at us. Second half we were much better with Mckay on and until the sending off, I think we were starting to get control of the game. Going down to 10 men, then 9 for a while obviously dictated how we played but it says more about Arbroath silky soccer skills that you barely mustered a shot on target or forced a save from our keeper even with a 1/2 man advantage. Your luck ran out last night as it had to at some point and while we will most likely meet again next season, I do hope we beat you convincingly with eleven men. 

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The only thing the Premiership is good for the is money your club earns. For the fans, it’s mostly shite imo.


I can assure you,as a Killie fan, this year has been the shitiest standard of football I’ve seen in 29 years, since we were there the last time. Awful, awful league. Thought it might be refreshing for a season, but it was the opposite.
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1 hour ago, Bogbrush1903 said:

I was there too and that's exactly right. Ridgers was wasting time at every place kick long before ICT went down to ten men. It was extremely negative tactics by Dodds, I was disappointed with him

If you had witnessed the first leg, you may well have recognised the self same tactic in the shape of Gaston.

In fact he was at it in the midweek league game which Arbroath shaded by the only goal earlier in the season.

For me Dodds got it spot on. He remarked on the pitch being rock hard and credit to him for learning from the Partick Thistle game earlier in the season when he started the game with the intention of playing too much football and then had to adjust.

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Huisdean50 said:

Absolute nonsense. We certainly didn't play well last night but the wind, in the first half contributed to that for us. Poor play from us to keep punting high balls up to Samuel as they just came straight back at us. Second half we were much better with Mckay on and until the sending off, I think we were starting to get control of the game. Going down to 10 men, then 9 for a while obviously dictated how we played but it says more about Arbroath silky soccer skills that you barely mustered a shot on target or forced a save from our keeper even with a 1/2 man advantage. Your luck ran out last night as it had to at some point and while we will most likely meet again next season, I do hope we beat you convincingly with eleven men. 

What a load of bull.

So finishing second in the league was down to luck. Inverness were never at any point in or getting control of the game they were just staying in the game even when it was 11 v 11. Wind getting the blame again i see.

 

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Last night should’ve been a glorified friendly but wasn’t due to us missing about 8 chances in the second half on Tuesday, Arbroath were never scoring then and didn’t look like scoring last night either. It’s actually pretty shocking from our perspective that it went to penalties.

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Last night should’ve been a glorified friendly but wasn’t due to us missing about 8 chances in the second half on Tuesday, Arbroath were never scoring then and didn’t look like scoring last night either. It’s actually pretty shocking from our perspective that it went to penalties.

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Just now, stan3600 said:


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You could’ve played continuously from Tuesday to Friday and still not scored m6. It happens.

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Arbroath fans were getting way above their station anyway. A glorified Forfar Athletic. Bunch of diddies who can go back to enjoying a relegation battle next season. Good riddance. 

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6 hours ago, keptie said:

What a load of bull.

So finishing second in the league was down to luck. Inverness were never at any point in or getting control of the game they were just staying in the game even when it was 11 v 11. Wind getting the blame again i see.

 

It seemed to work for us, I'm sure I don't need to remind you of the result.

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It seemed to work for us, I'm sure I don't need to remind you of the result.

It did work for you. Good luck against St J. We would rather play them next season. You’re obviously our bogey team and Perth is closer.
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