DA Baracus Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 7 minutes ago, The Moonster said: You seem annoyed at the fact people haven't filled this out and want answers as to why, when the reality is this... I'm 33 and this is the first census I've had to fill out myself. I didn't bother my arse with it until the other day, not because I hate the government but because I simply couldn't be arsed. Nah, not annoyed if people don't do it or not. Was joining in the discussion about it, seeing as this is a discussion forum. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 25 minutes ago, The Moonster said: not because I hate the government but because I simply couldn't be arsed. This is the political philosophy of our era. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 I have done mine, and get a bit bemused as to why folk refuse to do it. For me this is as much a good tool for history as it is about current resource planning. These 10-yearly snapshots tell us much about the trends in normal life that show us how society is changing. Making it a political thing means that automatically you'll get folk who are against it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Empty It Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 Not one question on what your favourite stroke is. Even if there was I doubt the one that killed Margaret Thatcher would've been an option. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsimButtHitsASix Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Scary Bear said: The swimming pool thing is a red herring. Not one question on what your favourite stroke is. If yer interested: Thatcher's 1 hour ago, DA Baracus said: Was there an issue with the previous few censuses? I don't recall folk complaining about it much, although maybe I missed that. Why are people so seemingly annoyed with it this time? There was a bit of a whinge about how many times Scotland appeared on the census this year by some absolute moonhowler Yoons. Scots appeared as a language along with English and Gaelic as a question in the census ten year ago without much fanfare but, again, it's a weird red rag for some Yoons this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Empty It said: Even if there was I doubt the one that killed Margaret Thatcher would've been an option. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz5 Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] Are you thinking that unless someone chaps your door to ask you to fill it out you don’t have to? Like it or not you have to complete it. You have been asked to. It’s in the letter you and every other household gets. If you don’t complete it you can be fined, no matter what you think. That's literally the process for non completion, yes. I suspect it won't be a "chap at the door" directly, as you put it, but the process clearly states "If you do not fill in the census, a census officer will contact you and encourage you to complete it. They will help you access any support you need to fill in your form."So the notion that if, like me, you have no letter and just had no clue it was happening you are getting a £1000 fine without any form of contact is, as I suspected the last time it was posted, complete pish, despite "what you think", good sir. [emoji6]Anyway, I have no objection to it, I just didn't know anything about it. I'm unlikely to be the only one in that category. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Joe Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 As someone who takes more than a passing interest in family history I can see the value of the census. The publication of the 1921 census will be like Christmas morning for me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Saints Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 I just had a bit of a panic before realising that the Census was done in England last year and I’ve already completed it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 21 hours ago, The Real Saints said: I just had a bit of a panic before realising that the Census was done in England last year and I’ve already completed it. So somebody living in England last year but now living in Scotland will be counted twice, while somebody who did the opposite will be overlooked altogether. Boy, that is really going to complicate everything! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 Government realising that lots of people aren't bothering and it's unrealistic to fine them all. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-61255699 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, Left Back said: Government realising that lots of people aren't bothering and it's unrealistic to fine them all. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-61255699 That’s not what that article says. Not even close. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernLights Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 (edited) How did England/Wales managed to get their census completed last year (with a 97% response rate) but we delayed ours and have a much worse response rate (I know the excuse is "cause Covid" but it seems not really a great one when you see England/Wales got theirs done without too much bother)? Edited April 28, 2022 by NorthernLights 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 I think this thread is probably accurate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 11 minutes ago, ICTChris said: I think this thread is probably accurate. Consumption and how media is generated, so much of our programming comes from elsewhere. However after a 4 week delay if imagine the fines will start filtering through, although they will probably have a last chance to complete type thing which will make it pointless as folk will just stick down any old rubbish. We would be better sending folk door to door at this stage. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Fullerene said: So somebody living in England last year but now living in Scotland will be counted twice, while somebody who did the opposite will be overlooked altogether. Boy, that is really going to complicate everything! Nah, the net effect is Nil. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 How did England/Wales managed to get their census completed last year (with a 97% response rate) but we delayed ours and have a much worse response rate (I know the excuse is "cause Covid" but it seems not really a great one when you see England/Wales got theirs done without too much bother)? Because it yet another thing being "weoponised" politically as seems to be the want in Scotland these days. It's seen as SNP interference despite the census having been in basically the same way, shape ir form for hundreds of years. It's utterly pathetic but that's Scotland for you in 2022. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Khaki Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 11 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: 32 minutes ago, NorthernLights said: How did England/Wales managed to get their census completed last year (with a 97% response rate) but we delayed ours and have a much worse response rate (I know the excuse is "cause Covid" but it seems not really a great one when you see England/Wales got theirs done without too much bother)? Because it yet another thing being "weoponised" politically as seems to be the want in Scotland these days. It's seen as SNP interference despite the census having been in basically the same way, shape ir form for hundreds of years. It's utterly pathetic but that's Scotland for you in 2022. Yup. Every single person I know who hasn't yet completed it is claiming they won't on a point of principle, and justifying it with some 'but the essenpeee!' nonsense. Total playground stuff. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 12 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: 33 minutes ago, NorthernLights said: How did England/Wales managed to get their census completed last year (with a 97% response rate) but we delayed ours and have a much worse response rate (I know the excuse is "cause Covid" but it seems not really a great one when you see England/Wales got theirs done without too much bother)? Because it yet another thing being "weoponised" politically as seems to be the want in Scotland these days. It's seen as SNP interference despite the census having been in basically the same way, shape ir form for hundreds of years. It's utterly pathetic but that's Scotland for you in 2022. I don't think this is the case. There isn't some sort of organised campaign to discredit the SNP by refusing to fill out the census. The rate of response seems lowest in Glasgow, which is an SNP council and, IIRC, has all SNP MPs and MSPs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 A census taker once tried to test me. I put his letter in the bin and then posted about it on the internet. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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