oneteaminglasgow Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Could just be that all the players think O’Briens an arsehole and didn’t want to vote for him? -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1885 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Could just be that all the players think O’Briens an arsehole and didn’t want to vote for him? Got nominated for POTY 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 16 minutes ago, Rob1885 said: 43 minutes ago, oneteaminglasgow said: Could just be that all the players think O’Briens an arsehole and didn’t want to vote for him? Got nominated for POTY So he did, ignore that then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardle is Magic Posted April 25, 2022 Author Share Posted April 25, 2022 (edited) We have people arguing about whether Lewis Mayo or Danny fucking Devine should have made TOTY and some folk have the *audacity* to claim this isn't the worst league in eons. Edited April 25, 2022 by Cardle is Magic 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoBNob Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 9 hours ago, Nightmare said: Mayo over O’Brien is an anomaly which I’m sure wouldn’t have occurred if it was possible for players to vote for TOB as a defender. That said, Mayo should 100% have been next in line if the other best alternative was Danny Devine. Why? Literally the explanations Thistle fans have for Mayo, you could then give for Devine, except Devine wins due to playing for a better team with a better defensive record. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 Devine has been solid all season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lichtielegend Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 Devine has been (surprisingly) decent every time I've seen him. We've not had much change out of the Caley defence all season and I think they are the best equipped Championship club to win the playoffs. If we're selecting players on the basis of half a season like Lafferty (which is totally justified), I think there's an argument that Nouble deserves to be there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stan3600 Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 It’s going to be a hoot when Tom O’Brien wins player of the year but isn’t in the team of the year. A few red faces at the PFA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Grant228 said: Why? Literally the explanations Thistle fans have for Mayo, you could then give for Devine, except Devine wins due to playing for a better team with a better defensive record. Devine could win the fucking Ballon D’or and he’ll still be absolutely pish as far as I’m concerned. Nothing will ever change my mind on this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmare Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Grant228 said: Why? Literally the explanations Thistle fans have for Mayo, you could then give for Devine, except Devine wins due to playing for a better team with a better defensive record. See reply above. I watched Danny Devine play two seasons for us and he was possibly the worst player in a team of losers and shitebags. Has he improved since then? Maybe, but I refuse to believe he'd be doing better for us than Mayo has done this season. Not going to deny that Caley are a better team than us, but that's not particularly relevant in something which is specifically judging players as individuals. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 It's how good they've been this season though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weebaw Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 Only see opposition when they play Thistle. O’Brien is always a stand out. We would be in relegation trouble if it wasn’t for Tiffoney, he’s been that good. But O’Brien for me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoBNob Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 3 hours ago, Nightmare said: See reply above. I watched Danny Devine play two seasons for us and he was possibly the worst player in a team of losers and shitebags. Has he improved since then? Maybe, but I refuse to believe he'd be doing better for us than Mayo has done this season. Not going to deny that Caley are a better team than us, but that's not particularly relevant in something which is specifically judging players as individuals. On the first point it doesn't particularly matter how good, or bad Devine was for you before, it's based purely on this season, which by the accounts of ICT fans Devine has been very solid. If you want to go of historical accounts then Mayo was also pretty pish for Dunfermline last season at cb, that shouldn't mean he is incapable of getting in this years team. Of course it should be O'brien and neither Devine, or Mayo should be in it right enough. On that second point, how good Thistle have been (playoff side) was literally used as justification by one of your fans. Its inevitable that a teams performance will weigh heavily in this, Kilmarnock and Arbroath have been the two best sides this season, unsurprisingly there players will have had the best seasons. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Gekantawa Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 4 hours ago, oneteaminglasgow said: Devine could win the fucking Ballon D’or and he’ll still be absolutely pish as far as I’m concerned. Nothing will ever change my mind on this. 3 hours ago, Nightmare said: See reply above. I watched Danny Devine play two seasons for us and he was possibly the worst player in a team of losers and shitebags. Has he improved since then? Maybe, but I refuse to believe he'd be doing better for us than Mayo has done this season. Not going to deny that Caley are a better team than us, but that's not particularly relevant in something which is specifically judging players as individuals. Sorry, I can't agree with all of this. DD was with us two seasons and indeed the second season he was a disaster (as were so many who had been decent or great for for us previously such as Osman and Cerny). However DD was virtually ever present in our top 6 season, objectively speaking our best season in decades, forming a great partnership with Lindsay. Much of the success that year was built on a solid defence. It's simply wrong to suggest he was a total disaster for Thistle. 13 hours ago, Cardle is Magic said: We have people arguing about whether Lewis Mayo or Danny fucking Devine should have made TOTY and some folk have the *audacity* to claim this isn't the worst league in eons. In addition to the above, DD's also had other successful seasons at Premier level and a Scottish cup medal, so I also think it's a little harsh to suggest this league's rubbish because Devine is considered one of its better players. He's spent much of his career at a higher level for a reason. Similarly, Mayo is first choice Scotland U21 centre back for a reason and has been absolutely solid for us all season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardle is Magic Posted April 26, 2022 Author Share Posted April 26, 2022 17 minutes ago, Duke Gekantawa said: forming a great partnership with Lindsay. He was Danny Drinkwater then? Also, aren't the Scotland Under 21s currently a bit shite? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 22 minutes ago, Duke Gekantawa said: Sorry, I can't agree with all of this. DD was with us two seasons and indeed the second season he was a disaster (as were so many who had been decent or great for for us previously such as Osman and Cerny). However DD was virtually ever present in our top 6 season, objectively speaking our best season in decades, forming a great partnership with Lindsay. Much of the success that year was built on a solid defence. It's simply wrong to suggest he was a total disaster for Thistle. In addition to the above, DD's also had other successful seasons at Premier level and a Scottish cup medal, so I also think it's a little harsh to suggest this league's rubbish because Devine is considered one of its better players. He's spent much of his career at a higher level for a reason. Similarly, Mayo is first choice Scotland U21 centre back for a reason and has been absolutely solid for us all season. He was absolutely carried by Liam Lindsay, who was the best centre half in the country that year. Tomas Cerny was still good in our relegation season. Danny Devine is fucking shite. The fact that he’s also been fucking shite at a higher level is irrelevant. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velo army Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Duke Gekantawa said: Sorry, I can't agree with all of this. DD was with us two seasons and indeed the second season he was a disaster (as were so many who had been decent or great for for us previously such as Osman and Cerny). However DD was virtually ever present in our top 6 season, objectively speaking our best season in decades, forming a great partnership with Lindsay. Much of the success that year was built on a solid defence. It's simply wrong to suggest he was a total disaster for Thistle. In addition to the above, DD's also had other successful seasons at Premier level and a Scottish cup medal, so I also think it's a little harsh to suggest this league's rubbish because Devine is considered one of its better players. He's spent much of his career at a higher level for a reason. Similarly, Mayo is first choice Scotland U21 centre back for a reason and has been absolutely solid for us all season. Am I going nuts or is this not true? It was Keown that formed the partnership with Liam Lindsay, rather than DD. Could be howling put my arse though. E.T.A. Cerny was fine in our relegation season. Edited April 26, 2022 by velo army 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Gekantawa Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 6 minutes ago, velo army said: Am I going nuts or is this not true? It was Keown that formed the partnership with Liam Lindsay, rather than DD. Could be howling put my arse though. E.T.A. Cerny was fine in our relegation season. According to this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danny_Devine_(footballer,_born_1992), he played 30 league games that season (more than he played in the relegation season). Keown definitely also played in the second half of that season (I think he was a January loan)- another whose performances fell off a cliff the next season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Gekantawa Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 11 minutes ago, oneteaminglasgow said: He was absolutely carried by Liam Lindsay, who was the best centre half in the country that year. Tomas Cerny was still good in our relegation season. Danny Devine is fucking shite. The fact that he’s also been fucking shite at a higher level is irrelevant. Liam Lindsay was undoubtedly the league's best centre half that year. However, only one centre half gets you only so far. Devine was good for us that season. Cerny was alright, but not as good as he had been previously- and it was a very poor bit of goalkeeping that gave Livingston their crucial quick equaliser in the playoff. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayshead2 Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 18 hours ago, Monkfish85 said: On twitter some Arbroath players claiming O’Brien came under midfield category and not defence so couldn’t be selected What a major f**k up that is. TOB and Ricky Little have been amazing as a defensive pair. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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