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22 minutes ago, Scorge said:

This also canned a planned change of scenery trip to Lossiemouth today. Ended up at Spain Park instead - a scruffy low quality slugfest with very little in it until Banks O' Dee got their second. Turriff weren't blown away, but they are utterly chronic in front of goal, ran out of legs, and conceded another two. Home side not at their best compared to last season's exploits, but in the hat they go.

Is it as shitty a place to watch football as I've heard? Someone told me today that you have to peer through a fence. 

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R2 draw:


SPFL2 (10)
Albion Rovers, Annan Athletic, Bonnyrigg Rose Athletic, Dumbarton, East Fife, Elgin City, Forfar Athletic, Stenhousemuir, Stirling Albion, Stranraer

Lowland League (7/8)
Bo'ness United, Caledonian Braves, Dalbeattie Star, East Kilbride, Gretna 2008, OG Broomhill, Spartans

Highland League (6)
Banks o'Dee, Brechin City, Buckie Thistle, Formartine United, Fraserburgh, Wick Academy

East of Scotland League (7/8)
(Premier Division)     Hill of Beath Hawthorn, Linlithgow Rose, Sauchie
(First Divisiion)            Camelon, Dunbar United, Dunipace, Newtongrange Star

West of Scotland League (8)
(Premier Division)     Auchinleck Talbot, Cumnock, Darvel, Kilwinning Rangers, Pollok
(First Division)             Benburb, Drumchapel United
(Second Division)       Glasgow University

Midland League (1)
Carnoustie Panmure

tbc (1)
University of Stirling/Lothian Thistle HV

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1 minute ago, welshbairn said:

Is it as shitty a place to watch football as I've heard? Someone told me today that you have to peer through a fence. 

Only behind the goal and on the stand side line. The far side is clear with two covered stands straddling the dugouts and perfectly fine. Only danger today was getting tinnitus listening to the Turriff 'tactics klaxon', as he shall be forever dubbed now.

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Today ends a wait Glasgow Uni began the year Bell demonstrated the telephone, and Swan the light bulb... Disraeli was in office, the Zulu War yet to break-out, James Clerk Maxwell still lived and Alexander Fleming wasn't born... Here in Scotland the Tay Bridge had just opened: that's the old Tay Bridge which later collapsed disastrously.

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I went to Nairn 1 Drumchapel United 3 and despite Nairn playing 2 tiers above their opponents, Drumchapel were clearly better. Having Andy Geggan and David Templeton certainly helped. 
 

39 year old Conor Gethins up front for Nairn looks absolutely done. A truly shocking performance from him. Didn’t look interested from the first whistle. 

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2 hours ago, HibeeJibee said:

We seem to say it more and more frequently nowadays... but another bad weekend for the Highland League.

They had 18 participants in R1 but got just 6 through, and 2 of them were all-HL ties. In contrast Lowland, East and West had 16, 13 and 9 but sent 7, 7 and 8 through respectively (with Uni of Stirling v LTHV still to come).

Have they ever been the worst represented of the principal non-leagues in R2 before?

Aye it’s been a shocker for the HL. Out with the top 4 and BoD, the standard is the worst I’ve ever seen. Teams full of teenagers and early 20 somethings with no experience.

Edit - and boys signed from the North Caley and lower (Inverness Amateur League).

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3 hours ago, HibeeJibee said:

R2 draw:


SPFL2 (10)
Albion Rovers, Annan Athletic, Bonnyrigg Rose Athletic, Dumbarton, East Fife, Elgin City, Forfar Athletic, Stenhousemuir, Stirling Albion, Stranraer

Lowland League (7/8)
Bo'ness United, Caledonian Braves, Dalbeattie Star, East Kilbride, Gretna 2008, OG Broomhill, Spartans

Highland League (6)
Banks o'Dee, Brechin City, Buckie Thistle, Formartine United, Fraserburgh, Wick Academy

East of Scotland League (7/8)
(Premier Division)     Hill of Beath Hawthorn, Linlithgow Rose, Sauchie
(First Divisiion)            Camelon, Dunbar United, Dunipace, Newtongrange Star

West of Scotland League (8)
(Premier Division)     Auchinleck Talbot, Cumnock, Darvel, Kilwinning Rangers, Pollok
(First Division)             Benburb, Drumchapel United
(Second Division)       Glasgow University

Midland League (1)
Carnoustie Panmure

tbc (1)
University of Stirling/Lothian Thistle HV

Another 7-8 years and the big leagues will have a very different list of clubs. It’s interesting how teams like Camelon and Drumchapel have loitered at their levels but suddenly when a pathway opens up, growth happens. Maybe the HL hasn’t recognised this yet but I’m inclined to think, with the rural landscape predominant, the gap between north and south is likely to get wider.

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3 hours ago, Bring Your Own Socks said:

Another 7-8 years and the big leagues will have a very different list of clubs. It’s interesting how teams like Camelon and Drumchapel have loitered at their levels but suddenly when a pathway opens up, growth happens. Maybe the HL hasn’t recognised this yet but I’m inclined to think, with the rural landscape predominant, the gap between north and south is likely to get wider.

Correct the whole Scottish football landscape to anybody looking back from 20/30 years ago or further is in the middle of massive change.

And the Wosfl has only just began it's journey, hopefully the penny drops fast in the West after the Darvel farce in last season's playoff. The EoSFL isn't to be ignored. If Wosfl teams want to go forward then don't disrespect the EoSFL champions.

As you say what will Scottish look like by 2030 once the deadwood starts to be really launched out the SPFL2 and Lowland League.

The big Scottish Cup is a taster of what's out there for a lot of old Junior clubs especially in the West.

 

 

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Bad weekend for the HL or not, that is a good result for Hill o' Beath. Surely the first time they've went further in the Scottish Cup than Cowdenbeath 5 minutes up the road. Hopefully they get through another round and the Pars get them away in Round 3. Would be a great way to get another Derby in.

 

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1 hour ago, Salvo Montalbano said:

Bad weekend for the HL or not, that is a good result for Hill o' Beath. Surely the first time they've went further in the Scottish Cup than Cowdenbeath 5 minutes up the road. Hopefully they get through another round and the Pars get them away in Round 3. Would be a great way to get another Derby in.

 

Alloa at home mate, don't get your hopes up.

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3 hours ago, Salvo Montalbano said:

Surely the first time they've went further in the Scottish Cup than Cowdenbeath 5 minutes up the road.

That's correct: also first time Dunbar have passed Berwick, or Camelon and Dunipace passed 'Shire.

In other news Tower Hearts, the Amateur Cup holder who scratched in prelim, have folded.

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18 hours ago, HibeeJibee said:

Today ends a wait Glasgow Uni began the year Bell demonstrated the telephone, and Swan the light bulb... Disraeli was in office, the Zulu War yet to break-out, James Clerk Maxwell still lived and Alexander Fleming wasn't born... Here in Scotland the Tay Bridge had just opened: that's the old Tay Bridge which later collapsed disastrously.

Any idea on the number of chances?

Since 2007-08 they've been in by default. Qualifying Cups started in 1895 and don't know if they ever qualified. Before that looking at the results it's a bit hit & miss with scratching, being the beneficiary of quite a few byes, or not participating at all.

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17 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said:

Any idea on the number of chances?

Since 2007-08 they've been in by default. Qualifying Cups started in 1895 and don't know if they ever qualified. Before that looking at the results it's a bit hit & miss with scratching, being the beneficiary of quite a few byes, or not participating at all.

It's certainly less than you'd think for a club that had been trying for 145yrs. Equally them failing to qualify very often after the Scottish Qualifying Cup was introduced in 1895 is in itself an indication of their low standard most of the time. This was seemingly their 25th away tie:

1878-79     Queen's Park WO-Scr Glasgow University
1879-80     Third Lanark 1-1 Glasgow University
1879-80     Third Lanark 6-0 Glasgow University
1880-81     Dumbarton 9-0 Glasgow University
1881-82     Cartvale 5-4 Glasgow University
1882-83     Partick Thistle WO-Scr Glasgow University
1884-85     Northern 6-4 Glasgow University
1887-88     Thistle 6-0 Glasgow University
1888-89     Uddingston WO-Scr Glasgow University

1927-28     Albion Rovers 5-1 Glasgow University
1928-29     Kilmarnock 8-1 Glasgow University

1955-56     Forres Mechanics 3-2 Glasgow University
1956-57     Vale of Leithen 6-1 Glasgow University
1959-60     St Mirren 15-0 Glasgow University
1968-69     Kilmarnock 6-0 Glasgow University
1970-71     Clachnacuddin 2-1 Glasgow University
1975-76     Albion Rovers 1-1 Glasgow University

2010-11     Beith 8-1 Glasgow University
2013-14     Gala Fairydean Rovers 3-1 Glasgow University
2015-16     Cumbernauld Colts 3-0 Glasgow University
2017-18     Threave Rovers 2-1 Glasgow University
2018-19     Preston Athletic 3-1 Glasgow University
2019-20     Banks o'Dee 5-0 Glasgow University
2021-22     Broomhill 6-0 Glasgow University

2022-23     Forres Mechanics 2-3 Glasgow University

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It's certainly less than you'd think for a club that had been trying for 145yrs. Equally them failing to qualify very often after the Scottish Qualifying Cup was introduced in 1895 is in itself an indication of their low standard most of the time. This was seemingly their 25th away tie:

1878-79     Queen's Park WO-Scr Glasgow University
1879-80     Third Lanark 1-1 Glasgow University
1879-80     Third Lanark 6-0 Glasgow University
1880-81     Dumbarton 9-0 Glasgow University
1881-82     Cartvale 5-4 Glasgow University
1882-83     Partick Thistle WO-Scr Glasgow University
1884-85     Northern 6-4 Glasgow University
1887-88     Thistle 6-0 Glasgow University
1888-89     Uddingston WO-Scr Glasgow University

1927-28     Albion Rovers 5-1 Glasgow University
1928-29     Kilmarnock 8-1 Glasgow University

1955-56     Forres Mechanics 3-2 Glasgow University
1956-57     Vale of Leithen 6-1 Glasgow University
1959-60     St Mirren 15-0 Glasgow University
1968-69     Kilmarnock 6-0 Glasgow University
1970-71     Clachnacuddin 2-1 Glasgow University
1975-76     Albion Rovers 1-1 Glasgow University

2010-11     Beith 8-1 Glasgow University
2013-14     Gala Fairydean Rovers 3-1 Glasgow University
2015-16     Cumbernauld Colts 3-0 Glasgow University
2017-18     Threave Rovers 2-1 Glasgow University
2018-19     Preston Athletic 3-1 Glasgow University
2019-20     Banks o'Dee 5-0 Glasgow University
2021-22     Broomhill 6-0 Glasgow University

2022-23     Forres Mechanics 2-3 Glasgow University

I’m sure they played Dumbarton in the mid sixties as well
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21 minutes ago, Nowhereman said:

I’m sure they played Dumbarton in the mid sixties as well

They did in 1965-66: but that was at home (they lost 2-1).

They have won home ties before... only 2 granted... won 5-2 over St Cuthbert Wanderers in 1968-69 then won 1-0 over Burntisland in 2010-11.

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Second Round Draw
Bo'ness Utd  v  Auchinleck Talbot
Cumnock  v  Dumbarton
Newtongrange Star  v  Hill of Beath
Brechin City  v  Stirling Albion
Kilwinning Rangers  v  Forfar Athletic
Dunipace  v  Banks o'Dee
Dalbeattie Star  v  Darvel
Elgin City  v  Camelon
East Kilbride  v  Caledonian Braves
Sauchie  v  Bonnyrigg Rose
Wick Academy  v  Benburb
Stenhousemuir  v  East Fife
Pollok  v  Annan Athletic
Fraserburgh  v  Stranraer
Gretna 2008  v  Drumchapel Utd
Linlithgow Rose  v  Spartans
Carnoustie Panmure  v  Formartine Utd
Glasgow University  v  Albion Rovers
Buckie Thistle  v  Open Goal Broomhill
Dunbar Utd  v  University of Stirling

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Bo'ness United v Auchinleck Talbot
Brechin City v Stirling Albion
Buckie Thistle v Open Goal Broomhill
Carnoustie Panmure v Formartine United
Cumnock v Dumbarton
Dalbeattie Star v Darvel
Dunbar United v University of Stirling
Dunipace v Banks o'Dee
East Kilbride v Caledonian Braves
Elgin City v Camelon
Fraserburgh v Stranraer
Glasgow University v Albion Rovers
Gretna 2008 v Drumchapel United
Kilwinning Rangers v Forfar Athletic
Linlithgow Rose v Spartans
Newtongrange Star v Hill of Beath Hawthorn
Pollok v Annan Athletic
Sauchie v Bonnyrigg Rose Athletic
Stenhousemuir v East Fife
Wick Academy v Benburb



TV probably take Pollok-Annan, perhaps Cumnock-Dumbarton or Kilwinning-Forfar.

Bo'ness Utd-Auchinleck, Brechin-Stirling Albion and Linlithgow-Spartans also attractive.

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Cumnock v Dumbarton a stand out for me. Do the BBC go to Pollok v Annan as an apology? Or are they going to bore is all with Glasgow Uni v Albion Rovers as filming will be easier at Airdrie

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