Costanza Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 Interested to know who this Welsh mob we lost to is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 8 hours ago, AB1872 said: Aye the Old Firm is the problem in a country the size of Scotland having 42 ‘Senior’ clubs. Four clubs in Angus Four or is it 5 clubs in Fife Two clubs in the same street FFS Rangers and Celtic bring 90% of the money into the Scottish game but it’s their fault other clubs play in front of empty stadiums every week 3 hours ago, AB1872 said: Ok. Instead of simply blaming the two most successful clubs who generate the vast majority of the monies in Scottish football try looking at the game as a whole Utterly bizarre that a country this size has 42 senior clubs. Two top leagues of 10/12 clubs Lower leagues regionalised. Madness to have Annan v Elgin at anytime never mind midweek or Peterhead v Stranraer More even split in top leagues of finances. Scotland has 229 senior clubs. Fife has 20. Angus has 4. You fool. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 15 minutes ago, HibeeJibee said: Scotland has 229 senior clubs. Fife has 20. Angus has 4. You fool. Worst Mr T impersonation ever. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 10 hours ago, Donathan said: The best thing we *might* get is some sugar daddy buying a mid-sized regional club and ploughing so much money into them that they overtake the old firm. We got a flavour of this in 2005 with Vladimir Romanov. I think every neutral fan in Scotland was backing Hearts that year. 10 hours ago, Leith Green said: Think again He did say "neutral", not "bitter, twisted, wee team supporter". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 9 hours ago, AB1872 said: 1-0 away in a Europa League Quarter Final. I’ll take that back to Ibrox. I’m sure I’ll get my £48 worth now Other Scottish clubs haven’t even qualified for a group stage in how long? St Johnstone lost to a Welsh mob ffs. Hearts to a team from Malta Its never been so poor This Rangers team went undefeated in the league Ffs Some team lost to a side from Luxembourg... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorky Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 Going back to the title of the thread I would personally be delighted. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 Rangers* lost to some Irish team last week. Tinpot as f**k. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 10 hours ago, Jammyp said: It would help if the media didn't act like there is only two teams. Even TV time and exposure. Ten in a row and quadruple trebles should be treated as a problem and a problem to solve, not have some high pitched commentator scream sensational when Celtics Multimillion pound striker score his 5th hattrick in as many games Indeed. What other country on the planet would celebrate one club winning 12 domestic trophies in a row? Sky did a fucking documentary on Celtic doing this from 17-20. Folk like Ian Crocker and the Rangers and Celtic fans they have as pundits seem to take it personally when a team has the audacity to even score against them, let alone win a game. That’s what you’re up against in Scotland. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Psychosis Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 I'd love them to piss off but unless they go out of business they'll still be in Scotland, still hoovering up the media coverage and dominating the commercial landscape. If you think we get treated as a tin pot league now wait until the perceived "big boys" aren't even a part of it. Kids in Inverness and Fife will still stoat about in Rangers* tops and the two sisters will still dominate the football coverage. The difference is that they'll be talking about whether they should have had a penalty vs Burnley rather than vs St Johnstone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentGuerin Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 While Celtic's period of dominance was utterly boring, and I doubt many of us believe even their fans protestations that they don't agree, it's worth remembering that Scotland is not alone here. It's just a question of scale. They have an Old Firm, it's just their big foreign-owned Champions League regulars. England has essentially gone the same way. In the 80s there were thirteen different clubs in England who won major trophies. This included Wimbledon, Luton, Oxford, Coventry, Norwich, Wolves, Forest. The 90s saw 12 different winners, including the likes of Villa, Leeds, Sheffield Wednesday, Leicester. By the 2000s it's down to 9 winners, but you've still got Spurs, Portsmouth, Blackburn etc getting their hands on trophies. In the last decade only four trophies in English football have been won by clubs outwith what we could call England's Old Firm. Leicester have won two, Wigan, and Swansea. That's four trophies out of the last thirty not going to the Old Firm. They're fucked too. People laugh at Spurs, for example, for not winning anything. But they're up against a closed shop. Trophies now are basically only won by a tiny group of clubs and that's just the way it's going. In England we can now add Newcastle to the Old Firm from next season. In Scotland 9 of the last 30 trophies have been won by clubs outwith the Old Firm, so you could argue that in a way a Hearts, Aberdeen, St Mirren, or Ross County fan is better off than an Everton or Aston Villa fan. We're all in the same boat in that our teams won't win the league, but we've got about a better chance of maybe winning a cup. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AB1872 Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Jacksgranda said: Some team lost to a side from Luxembourg... I know. An utter embarrassment but that team did something about it and went a whole league campaign undefeated When Celtic went undefeated they lost away to Lincoln Red Imps Thanks for helping to prove my point. The other Scottish clubs have never been this poor 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, AB1872 said: I know. An utter embarrassment but that team did something about it and went a whole league campaign undefeated When Celtic went undefeated they lost away to Lincoln Red Imps Thanks for helping to prove my point. The other Scottish clubs have never been this poor Aye, right enough, none of the rest of us ever lost to a team from Luxembourg or Lincoln Red Imps. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AB1872 Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 9 hours ago, Charles Stiles said: It was Kilmarnock that lost to a Welsh mob. Best to get your facts right when trolling. There are so many embarrassing examples of diddies being humiliated in European competition that it’s difficult to keep up Killie , Hearts, Sheep, St Johnstone, Hibs. All failed to get to a group stage in recent years 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 Just now, AB1872 said: There are so many embarrassing examples of diddies being humiliated in European competition that it’s difficult to keep up Killie , Hearts, Sheep, St Johnstone, Hibs. All failed to get to a group stage in recent years Rangers against progress from Luxembourg , v kaunus Celtic losing first leg v Lincoln red imp waiters They are diddy teams too 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammyp Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, AB1872 said: There are so many embarrassing examples of diddies being humiliated in European competition that it’s difficult to keep up Killie , Hearts, Sheep, St Johnstone, Hibs. All failed to get to a group stage in recent years I may be wrong but the Old Firm have been pumped out of Europe before the group stages too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AB1872 Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Jacksgranda said: Aye, right enough, none of the rest of us ever lost to a team from Luxembourg or Lincoln Red Imps. Kinda missing the point. Progres and LRI did something your clubs couldn’t. It’s absolutely undeniable that the diddies are poorer now than ever before. That’s not our fault Diddies would rather play in front of half empty stadiums than sell tickets to away fans Diddies have allowed Doncaster to remain in position despite his many failings We don’t even have VAR ffs! No country anywhere has as many Senior clubs. Reduce that amount and spread the prize money more evenly Regionalise the lower leagues Just because somethings always been that way doesn’t mean we can’t change The problem is we have 30 odd clubs who are happy just surviving on the scraps they get from the OF and the more ambitious Diddies don’t want to get on the wrong side of Peter Nothing is going to change. Rangers and Celtic will get stronger and the Diddies will continue getting weaker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AB1872 Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, Jammyp said: I may be wrong but the Old Firm have been pumped out of Europe before the group stages too. Ffs of course they have! We were pumped out by a very average Malmö earlier in the season. That said we have punched well above our weight in recent years despite Diddies doing next to nothing to boost the coefficient. Two clubs more or less carry the whole country. it would benefit the OF and the Diddies if we could come together to make the Top division (at least) stronger and more competitive 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSaints1877 Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 1 minute ago, AB1872 said: Kinda missing the point. Progres and LRI did something your clubs couldn’t. It’s absolutely undeniable that the diddies are poorer now than ever before. That’s not our fault Diddies would rather play in front of half empty stadiums than sell tickets to away fans Diddies have allowed Doncaster to remain in position despite his many failings We don’t even have VAR ffs! No country anywhere has as many Senior clubs. Reduce that amount and spread the prize money more evenly Regionalise the lower leagues Just because somethings always been that way doesn’t mean we can’t change The problem is we have 30 odd clubs who are happy just surviving on the scraps they get from the OF and the more ambitious Diddies don’t want to get on the wrong side of Peter Nothing is going to change. Rangers and Celtic will get stronger and the Diddies will continue getting weaker Your old club died because of fiscal irresponsibility. Your new club is heading the same way. Your new club has racked up debts of £100M and managed a solitary title. You cheated your way to “success” before and you are repeating history once again. All non-Sevco fans hope your club dies again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSaints1877 Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, AB1872 said: Ffs of course they have! We were pumped out by a very average Malmö earlier in the season. That said we have punched well above our weight in recent years despite Diddies doing next to nothing to boost the coefficient. Two clubs more or less carry the whole country. it would benefit the OF and the Diddies if we could come together to make the Top division (at least) stronger and more competitive Why don’t you and Celtic just set up a league of two and leave us diddies to play amongst ourselves? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, AB1872 said: Kinda missing the point. Progres and LRI did something your clubs couldn’t. It’s absolutely undeniable that the diddies are poorer now than ever before. That’s not our fault Diddies would rather play in front of half empty stadiums than sell tickets to away fans Diddies have allowed Doncaster to remain in position despite his many failings We don’t even have VAR ffs! No country anywhere has as many Senior clubs. Reduce that amount and spread the prize money more evenly Regionalise the lower leagues Just because somethings always been that way doesn’t mean we can’t change The problem is we have 30 odd clubs who are happy just surviving on the scraps they get from the OF and the more ambitious Diddies don’t want to get on the wrong side of Peter Nothing is going to change. Rangers and Celtic will get stronger and the Diddies will continue getting weaker Most of the diddies have beaten Celtic and Rangers at some point in the last few years, too. What happens to the clubs that you unsenior? What scraps are these then? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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