Cost of Living Crisis

[Benjamin_Nevis]

Just now, WhiteRoseKillie said:

 believe my major point still stands - an educated populace would see the dog-whistle shite propaganda used by the Tories for exactly what it is, and hound the cúnts not just out of power, but out of existence.

I'm not so sure tbh. Let's face it, only a minority of the population will genuinely believe the current Tory government is corruption-free. However they give these losers what they want - oppression of the poor and of brown people. These are very important things to the average conservative voter and they will willingly ignore corruption and cronyism as long as they can keep ripping the pish out of "scroungers" and shouting at dinghies. 

You can't educate a population that have "HAD ENOUGH OF EXPERTS"

[DAFC.]

Any Yoons came in and defended the UK government and Sunak by declaring "This is happening in every country all over the world" yet?

The general UK population are boot-licking shitebags, so these crises will just have to be the norm I guess.

[scottsdad]

@WhiteRoseKillie What about Starmer's plan for a windfall tax? 

Fan or not a fan?

[DMCs]

All VAT on energy bills should have been postponed. Insane to pay 20% on that which isn't the norm in most countries.

[Albus Bulbasaur]

14 minutes ago, scottsdad said:

@WhiteRoseKillie What about Starmer's plan for a windfall tax? 

Fan or not a fan?

Careful now. This seemed to upset a lot of people before. 

[vikingTON]

A windfall tax (while not a bad idea) is not going to do anything while we have clowns like Nigel in Nottingham and Tina from Essex who think that a grave injustice is being done because they've got higher bills to pay on state pension having already bought their house. All property is wealth and should be treated as such in the collective shakedown that society needs. The 'dementia tax' debacle from 2017 shows that none of the parties are serious about this - including Corbyn who let Labour's tactical interest trump the reality that social care has to be paid for from somewhere. And so here we are. 

If you're struggling to keep the lights on in your big family home at 68, then it's time for you downsize and/or rejoin the delights of the rental market. That would also deflate the housing market quite nicely to address generational inequality. 

Edited March 24, 2022 by vikingTON

[Dawson Park Boy]

31 minutes ago, DMCs said:

All VAT on energy bills should have been postponed. Insane to pay 20% on that which isn't the norm in most countries.

I pay 5% on my gas and electricity.

[WhiteRoseKillie]

[mention=37891]WhiteRoseKillie[/mention] What about Starmer's plan for a windfall tax? 
Fan or not a fan?

Absolutely a fan of taxing those (corporate and individuals) who can most afford it.
Absolutely not a fan of a so-called Labour leader who won't go the extra step and commit to nationalising energy as well as rail while laying out a plan to reverse the decline of our Health Service.
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[101]

59 minutes ago, DAFC. said:

Any Yoons came in and defended the UK government and Sunak by declaring "This is happening in every country all over the world" yet?

The general UK population are boot-licking shitebags, so these crises will just have to be the norm I guess.

It needs to UK press to dig into that, it obviously doesn't stand up to much scrutiny, also Brexit is never mentioned in press reports. I don't know why, plenty folk were happy to a downturn to fulfill their ideology.

However just now if you read the UK press you would have no idea the actions being taken on similar issues internationally.

[WhiteRoseKillie]

A windfall tax (while not a bad idea) is not going to do anything while we have clowns like Nigel in Nottingham and Tina from Essex who think that a grave injustice is being done because they've got higher bills to pay on state pension having already bought their house. All property is wealth and should be treated as such in the collective shakedown that society needs. The 'dementia tax' debacle from 2017 shows that none of the parties are serious about this - including Corbyn who let Labour's tactical interest trump the reality that social care has to be paid for from somewhere. And so here we are. 
If you're struggling to keep the lights on in your big family home at 68, then it's time for you downsize and/or rejoin the delights of the rental market. That would also deflate the housing market quite nicely to address generational inequality. 

Labour committed eight billion to form and fund a national care service in the 2017 manifesto.
But hey, don't let the facts get in the way of your latest mega brain pronouncement.
By the way, wee bit racist that you don't lump Angus from Aberdeenshire and Morag from Galloway in with your stereotype Tories.

[DeeTillEhDeh]

Check the rage, your comment makes no sense what so ever. You must really have little to do in life if you can recall a post from months ago and then try turn it in to something it's not. What a pathetic fool.

Pathetic sleazeball.

[Clown Job]

I genuinely think later in the year you’ll start to see some massive civil disobedience or just some outright riots 

Deservedly so if it does

[Mark Knopfler]

Rishi Sunak looks like Pedro Caixinha.

[Paco]

All VAT on energy bills should have been postponed. Insane to pay 20% on that which isn't the norm in most countries.

5% VAT on domestic gas and electric. It’s definitely something the government should be doing, but unfortunately we’re at a stage where removing it would do very little to help.

For context the average UK energy bill is now estimated at £164.25 per month. Removing VAT would reduce that to £156.04 per month.

It’s better than nothing but quite simply nothing short of major government intervention, either in the form of subsidised bills or a cap on the price cap, is going to cut it.

[101]

52 minutes ago, Clown Job said:

I genuinely think later in the year you’ll start to see some massive civil disobedience or just some outright riots 

Deservedly so if it does

Yeh but there will be sizable people out clapping like seals to have them scooped up just like insulate Britain were. The Tories actually passed legislation wasting our money to stop them when laws already existed.

Let's see if a few sectors can get a strike going before there are proper demos.

[vikingTON]

1 hour ago, WhiteRoseKillie said:

Labour committed eight billion to form and fund a national care service in the 2017 manifesto.
But hey, don't let the facts get in the way of your latest mega brain pronouncement.

Eight billion in a back of a fag packet set of manifesto promises is not a credible solution.

The reality is that in order to try and achieve the supreme advantage of, err, a hung parliament, Labour rallied to the defence of the propertied class and their divine right to hand down their homes to their sprogs unhindered by the reality of paying care costs. And so nothing has been done to solve that problem - and now Labour is mewling about who ends up paying the price. 

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By the way, wee bit racist that you don't lump Angus from Aberdeenshire and Morag from Galloway in with your stereotype Tories.

If you're a total moron, sure. 

[Scary Bear]

11 hours ago, 101 said:

Bullshit, he doesn't even know how a contactless card reader works.

 

 

Maybe he has a Nectar card?

just an ordinary bloke. 

[KingRocketman II]

4 hours ago, Day of the Lords said:

Fucks sakes. This was quite an interesting topic until it bombed with Indy/Yoon pish. 

 

3 hours ago, Day of the Lords said:

I'm not so sure tbh. Let's face it, only a minority of the population will genuinely believe the current Tory government is corruption-free. However they give these losers what they want - oppression of the poor and of brown people. These are very important things to the average conservative voter and they will willingly ignore corruption and cronyism as long as they can keep ripping the pish out of "scroungers" and shouting at dinghies. 

and yet this is poles apart.....

[101]

1 hour ago, virginton said:

Eight billion in a back of a fag packet set of manifesto promises is not a credible solution.

The reality is that in order to try and achieve the supreme advantage of, err, a hung parliament, Labour rallied to the defence of the propertied class and their divine right to hand down their homes to their sprogs unhindered by the reality of paying care costs. And so nothing has been done to solve that problem - and now Labour is mewling about who ends up paying the price. 

If you're a total moron, sure. 

Are you arguing for 100% inheritance tax? So that the state gets everything when you snuff it?

I'm not against that tbh, maybe something about parents dying young but most folk won't need inherited wealth by the time their parents are 6ft under.

[vikingTON]

4 minutes ago, 101 said:

Are you arguing for 100% inheritance tax? So that the state gets everything when you snuff it?

I'm not against that tbh, maybe something about parents dying young but most folk won't need inherited wealth by the time their parents are 6ft under.

I'd want at least 75%. Unearned generational wealth is the most legitimate target for taxation in society and governments should go aggressively after avoidance chancer scheme and huckle the financial 'advisors' responsible for them into jail.