TheScarf Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 17 minutes ago, gannonball said: You did pretty much regurgitate what he was moaning about though? I didn't though did I? I showed how how they aren't remotely similar. Why do you lot find it so hard to accept that Celtic winning about 358 Scottish Premiership titles, whilst having a vast monetary advantage over the other clubs, isn't impressive, and shouldn't be lauded as such? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, TheScarf said: I didn't though did I? I showed how how they aren't remotely similar. Why do you lot find it so hard to accept that Celtic winning about 358 Scottish Premiership titles, whilst having a vast monetary advantage over the other clubs, isn't impressive, and shouldn't be lauded as such? Your Nan could win it up here eh? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentGuerin Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, TheScarf said: I didn't though did I? I showed how how they aren't remotely similar. Why do you lot find it so hard to accept that Celtic winning about 358 Scottish Premiership titles, whilst having a vast monetary advantage over the other clubs, isn't impressive, and shouldn't be lauded as such? I don't really blame Old Firm fans for this. They live in their own wee bubble where they all tell each other what a big deal it is and treat it with such drama. Remember the pictures of the Celtic fans crying at Fir Park in 2005? These are fans who had seen their team win the league in 1998, 2001, 2002, 2004, and they were fucking greeting! This is the bubble they inhabit. And it's reinforced by a fawning media who prattle on about it being a big deal because they need to pander to their audience. They probably genuinely believe it's a big deal. I've lived most of my adult life in England and I reckon I could show most of my football-watching friends a picture of Scott Brown and they'd have no idea who he was. And absolutely nobody outside their wee bubble cares about what he's won. But this is their world. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergie's no1 fan Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Just shows you who the real hard man is. Don't f**k with Goodwin. In the door 2 minutes and Broonie has retired . 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, Clown Job said: Your Nan could win it up here eh? Nice non-sequitur. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gannonball Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, TheScarf said: I didn't though did I? I showed how how they aren't remotely similar. Why do you lot find it so hard to accept that Celtic winning about 358 Scottish Premiership titles, whilst having a vast monetary advantage over the other clubs, isn't impressive, and shouldn't be lauded as such? Yes, exaggerating the numerical claim grossly absolutely helps dispel the myth about mental gymnastics. 2 minutes ago, Clown Job said: Your Nan could win it up here eh? I read his post in a talk-sport type accent but he used words with more than two syllables to be fair so didn’t feel as genuine as I’d hoped. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, VincentGuerin said: I don't really blame Old Firm fans for this. They live in their own wee bubble where they all tell each other what a big deal it is and treat it with such drama. Remember the pictures of the Celtic fans crying at Fir Park in 2005? These are fans who had seen their team win the league in 1998, 2001, 2002, 2004, and they were fucking greeting! This is the bubble they inhabit. And it's reinforced by a fawning media who prattle on about it being a big deal because they need to pander to their audience. They probably genuinely believe it's a big deal. I've lived most of my adult life in England and I reckon I could show most of my football-watching friends a picture of Scott Brown and they'd have no idea who he was. And absolutely nobody outside their wee bubble cares about what he's won. But this is their world. I think most would know who he was. He was the Scotland captain, but there's a difference between the my nan stuff from a Nigel who has only ever watched the EPL, and a Scottish football fan know knows only Rangers or Celtic will ever win 95% of the trophies up for grabs. The nan stuff relates to the quality of the league, rather than if it's a good achievement or not for Celtic to win the league every year. I wouldn't expect the average Old Firm to grasp this, and they haven't. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 8 minutes ago, VincentGuerin said: I don't really blame Old Firm fans for this. They live in their own wee bubble where they all tell each other what a big deal it is and treat it with such drama. Remember the pictures of the Celtic fans crying at Fir Park in 2005? These are fans who had seen their team win the league in 1998, 2001, 2002, 2004, and they were fucking greeting! This is the bubble they inhabit. And it's reinforced by a fawning media who prattle on about it being a big deal because they need to pander to their audience. They probably genuinely believe it's a big deal. I've lived most of my adult life in England and I reckon I could show most of my football-watching friends a picture of Scott Brown and they'd have no idea who he was. And absolutely nobody outside their wee bubble cares about what he's won. But this is their world. I mean, who really cares what English fans think of Scottish football? Since when do we need to impress them or anyone else? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, gannonball said: Yes, exaggerating the numerical claim grossly absolutely helps dispel the myth about mental gymnastics. I read his post in a talk-sport type accent but he used words with more than two syllables to be fair so didn’t feel as genuine as I’d hoped. Yeah, you're not really getting what mental gymnastics means are you? I'd bow out if I were you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 1 minute ago, TheScarf said: I think most would know who he was. He was the Scotland captain, but there's a difference between the my nan stuff from a Nigel who has only ever watched the EPL, and a Scottish football fan know knows only Rangers or Celtic will ever win 95% of the trophies up for grabs. The nan stuff relates to the quality of the league, rather than if it's a good achievement or not for Celtic to win the league every year. I wouldn't expect the average Old Firm to grasp this, and they haven't. You’re arguing his achievements in Scottish football should be downplayed because of the quality he’s up against. I hate to tell you, but you’re very much closer to the “Nan” mob than you perhaps understand It’s not a you don’t care because he doesn’t play for your club argument, which would be understandable 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, TheScarf said: I think most would know who he was. He was the Scotland captain, but there's a difference between the my nan stuff from a Nigel who has only ever watched the EPL, and a Scottish football fan know knows only Rangers or Celtic will ever win 95% of the trophies up for grabs. The nan stuff relates to the quality of the league, rather than if it's a good achievement or not for Celtic to win the league every year. I wouldn't expect the average Old Firm to grasp this, and they haven't. You are trying to explain to them why their whole worldview is a sham. Expect resistance. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, gannonball said: I read his post in a talk-sport type accent but he used words with more than two syllables to be fair so didn’t feel as genuine as I’d hoped. Adrian Durham would be proud seeing some of the arguments in here 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Clown Job said: You’re arguing his achievements in Scottish football should be downplayed because of the quality he’s up against. I hate to tell you, but you’re very much closer to the “Nan” mob than you perhaps understand It’s not a you don’t care because he doesn’t play for your club argument, which would be understandable The two points are clearly different. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, coprolite said: You are trying to explain to them why their whole worldview is a sham. Expect resistance. Don't Rangers fans claim to be the worlds most successful football club because they've won more 2 horse races than Celtic? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gannonball Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 6 minutes ago, TheScarf said: Yeah, you're not really getting what mental gymnastics means are you? I'd bow out if I were you. I do I just felt it was apt that you were grossly exaggerating and spiralling at the same time made it even more apt and literal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 1 minute ago, gannonball said: I do I just felt it was apt that you were grossly exaggerating and spiralling at the same time made it even more apt and literal. It certainly was neither of those things. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gannonball Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Clown Job said: Adrian Durham would be proud seeing some of the arguments in here Calling him Durhamesque is a bit harsh, more of a rambling bricky/scaffolder from Slough phoning in on the drive home. Edited March 9, 2022 by gannonball 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinky67 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, TheScarf said: It really doesn't. The 'my nan' is a jibe at the fact that Celtic and Rangers, with their current squads, wouldn't win the SP with any current PL team parachuted into it. Said PL would win it handsomely. Which I think is complete shite, as would most on here. His achievements are downplayed as 95% of them were won in a 1 horse race (with a very weak 2nd horse in the race for the last 2 years). That's an undeniable fact. It’s very much a deniable fact. Scott Brown won 5 major trophies before Rangers imploded so by my maths that’s just over 20% of his total honours so your 95% of them won in a 1 horse race remark isn’t really fact at all, it’s just your opinion and a pretty weak one at it. Edited March 9, 2022 by Jinky67 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, Jinky67 said: It’s very much a deniable fact. Scott Brown won 5 major trophies before Rangers imploded so by my maths that’s just over 20% of his total honours so your 95% of them won in a 1 horse race remark isn’t really fact at all, it’s just your opinion and a pretty weak one at it. Aye no bother Scott Steiner. How is Scott Brown winning all those trophies in a 1 horse race an opinion you fucking lunatic? 80% or my arbitrary, but nearly correct estimate of 95% doesn't change the fact. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennie makevin Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Clown Job said: As for Scott Brown being a Celtic Legend… Well that’s such an individual opinion and probably a generational one also Let’s just say he’s more of a “legend” than some of the ex players you’ll see described as such in the media. I'd say you've got a point with that one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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