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2 hours ago, TxRover said:

Not sure you are correct there. Lower relative humidity allows faster evaporation, and causes you to feel cooler…higher relative humidity makes you feel warmer (and stickier). My smart thermostat has an option to cool the house up to 3F below set temperature to reduce humidity, if it exceeds 70% inside. While it does take a small amount of extra energy to heat a humid room, the humid air holds the heat more efficiently, and often feels more comfortable.

Dry air will heat much quicker than moist, humid air.

It's to do with heat capacities. The heat capacity of air is much lower than water and so requires less energy to heat by each single degree of temperature.

Once humid air is heated up it may possibly release its heat more slowly than air but that's a different thing as you have to heat it first - which is the issue.

The quickest way to heat a room is to use some forced supply to overcome the conduction issue of less dense dry air, so a warm air fan or something like that will be faster than a radiator.

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I haven't received an email telling what my DD is being increased to, so I went on to the supplier's website to see what I could find out.  With a bit of digging I found that my minimum DD has changed from my current payment to £35 less than that.

So if suppliers want to increase your DD, they're only too quick to tell you, but if you can pay less they don't bother letting you know.  

Anyway, I'll take the good news.  

Remember to submit a meter reading today folks.

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1 hour ago, Gnash said:

I haven't received an email telling what my DD is being increased to, so I went on to the supplier's website to see what I could find out.  With a bit of digging I found that my minimum DD has changed from my current payment to £35 less than that.

So if suppliers want to increase your DD, they're only too quick to tell you, but if you can pay less they don't bother letting you know.  

Anyway, I'll take the good news.  

Remember to submit an inflated meter reading today folks.

 

Not that I would recommend that. It's fraud.

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14 minutes ago, Suspect Device said:

Not that I would recommend that. It's fraud.

Whilst it's unlikely you'll get caught, it's difficult to argue the small risk is really worth it anyway. Assuming you are already on the price cap, 1MWh of gas is going to be around £30 more expensive next month than this month, and 240kWh of electricity £14.40 more.

The £400 rebate will take care of most, if not all, of the increases over the next few months, and the unit price isn't going to change again anytime soon.

All you are really doing if you fire in inflated readings is paying for a bit of your winter usage in advance.

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1 hour ago, Suspect Device said:

Just got my email to say that my DD is down from £246 to £179.

The calm before the storm.

Looks like your 67 discount has been applied unless I've got my sums wrong?

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19 hours ago, RH33 said:

That was yesterday's update from them.

If you're not on a fix the electric rate was supposed to be rising to around 52p, but the new price cap guarantee means no one will pay over 34p. If you're on a fix that is charging you more, it should get reduced (but might not be as low as the price guarantee rates), but if you're still paying a lot more you should be able to ask to cancel it and go on the standard variable which is covered by this two year price guarantee.

https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/utilities/energy-price-guarantee/

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Just had an email from my provider OVO/SSE informing me I will be put on some compulsory monthly direct debit scheme at their designated contributions rate. I've always refused to pay by DD and just pay on a quarterly basis based on actual meter readings rather than having big corporations sitting on my money, between this and sending unrequested letters telling me they have assigned a date to install a smart meter is a joke and bullying tactics.

This government discount is just being used as another scheme to enforce customers to be at the mercy of big business and let them take and hold further wealth from its customer base without control or repercussions.

 

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55 minutes ago, s_dog said:

If you're not on a fix the electric rate was supposed to be rising to around 52p, but the new price cap guarantee means no one will pay over 34p. If you're on a fix that is charging you more, it should get reduced (but might not be as low as the price guarantee rates), but if you're still paying a lot more you should be able to ask to cancel it and go on the standard variable which is covered by this two year price guarantee.

https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/utilities/energy-price-guarantee/

Not on fixed. I'll have a look.

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7 hours ago, Suspect Device said:

 

Not that I would recommend that. It's fraud.

Would it be ok to keep the heating on full blast 24/7 and hope that by the time you submit an annual reading the numbers on the meter have gone back to the start again?  I’m asking for a friend?

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Just logged on, after some considerable wait, to Shell Energy to submit by readings.  My monthly payments have been up and down like a whore's drawers for months. I currently pay £135 a month and I am currently £202 in credit. Shell energy are of the opinion I should now adjust my DD to £338 a month. Aye nae bother.

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8 hours ago, Hard Graft said:

Just logged on, after some considerable wait, to Shell Energy to submit by readings.  My monthly payments have been up and down like a whore's drawers for months. I currently pay £135 a month and I am currently £202 in credit. Shell energy are of the opinion I should now adjust my DD to £338 a month. Aye nae bother.

You're lucky you got on the website.

Just tried to login at 2am to see if I have any updates and there's a queue system in place.

It's a 20-minute wait just to login.

At 2am on a Sunday morning.  😂

 

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25 minutes ago, Forest_Fifer said:

I did my readings and submitted to EDF at 23:55 last night, no website issues for me.

 

7 hours ago, oaksoft said:

You're lucky you got on the website.

Just tried to login at 2am to see if I have any updates and there's a queue system in place.

It's a 20-minute wait just to login.

At 2am on a Sunday morning.  😂

 

Get a life FFS.  Why would you feel the need to login at near midnight or 2am to submit a meter reading when doing it any anytime in the next 10 days will suffice.

Even if they overestimated your usage by a days worth the difference would be a couple of quid and you'd get it back once you submitted the correct reading.

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12 minutes ago, strichener said:

 

Get a life FFS.  Why would you feel the need to login at near midnight or 2am to submit a meter reading when doing it any anytime in the next 10 days will suffice.

Even if they overestimated your usage by a days worth the difference would be a couple of quid and you'd get it back once you submitted the correct reading.

Is this not more to do with submitting readings before the rate rise, rather than being bothered about when the bill gets charged?

Will a submission in the next 10 days still get it on the lower pre-hike rate?

Eta: I forgot all about this, but thankfully my last meter reading submission was just a couple of weeks ago.  Was tempting to add an extra number onto the end, but would probably get shot through the head by the E.On man.

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