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On 08/07/2022 at 22:03, virginton said:

Even the previous generations of nuclear power were far safer for everyone involved than gas or, above all, coal. Coal has killed thousands per year in direct industrial accidents alone in any significant producing country over 200-odd years. That's before you look at the long-term health effects on workers and the rest of the population in air pollution. 

Worrying about the safety of nuclear power because of a couple of high-profile accidents is as irrational as being feart of flying while choosing to drive every day. 

Fortunately we don't even need to rely on nuclear alone as a reliable power source, but it should definitely be part of that mix instead of the total nonsense that is domestic gas burning. 

This 100% , people don't know the difference between hazard & risk

Hazard- something with the potential for harm

risk- likelihood of harm occurring

Flying involves more hazards than driving,  nuclear power generation has more hazards than coal or gas,  they both have much much lower risks 

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8 hours ago, AsimButtHitsASix said:

Wow. That is a big increase. Thank f**k Scotland is Europe's third largest producer of oil and third largest producer of renewable energy. Would be fucking mental if, despite that, our energy prices were some of the highest in Europe. 

Thankfully we have NS shouting about this...

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17 minutes ago, Zetterlund said:

Plenty of articles out there about heat pumps being noisy, expensive or ineffective, but I did not expect communist too.

 

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You get up one morning to check why your heating isn’t working only to find your boiler has gone off to invade Ukraine?

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On 23/07/2022 at 20:44, Jacksgranda said:

Down another 5p to 184.9 /lt for diesel yesterday.

You can find the cheapest prices in your area (or anywhere) on petrolprices.com. You need to register with an email address but they don’t bother you.

https://www.petrolprices.com

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1 hour ago, oaksoft said:

A prediction today that gas and electricity will double again from current values by January.

Not sure how realistic this is but we surely must be at a tipping point here in terms of being able to continue with our way of life in the UK for millions of people.

Gas prices soar as Russia cuts German supply - BBC News

Can't believe this 

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2 hours ago, oaksoft said:

A prediction today that gas and electricity will double again from current values by January.

Not sure how realistic this is but we surely must be at a tipping point here in terms of being able to continue with our way of life in the UK for millions of people.

Gas prices soar as Russia cuts German supply - BBC News

f**k knows how you try and handle this. Increase the support payment? Refuse to lift the price cap again? On the former there seems little point immediately coming to a decision since it'll inevitably go up yet again and the support package will need to be revised upwards again. 

I don't see how long this can hold. It is to a fair extent a consequence of government sanctions against Russia (a political decision) that we're in this position. Energy bills of nearly £4k a year is into the realms of punishing the domestic population because Russia did a bad thing. It's hard to say that without sounding like an utter dick, but the consequences for our domestic population are becoming severe. 

Business energy rates are not subject to the price cap and thus is just going to send prices and inflation higher again also. 

The EU is probably going to have to ration gas to.prevent Member States running out of it in winter. The taps might not turn off in the UK as only a small amount comes from Russia, but fucking hell we'll be paying through the nose for it. 

 

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6 minutes ago, Michael W said:

f**k knows how you try and handle this. Increase the support payment? Refuse to lift the price cap again? On the former there seems little point immediately coming to a decision since it'll inevitably go up yet again and the support package will need to be revised upwards again. 

I don't see how long this can hold. It is to a fair extent a consequence of government sanctions against Russia (a political decision) that we're in this position. Energy bills of nearly £4k a year is into the realms of punishing the domestic population because Russia did a bad thing. It's hard to say that without sounding like an utter dick, but the consequences for our domestic population are becoming severe. 

Business energy rates are not subject to the price cap and thus is just going to send prices and inflation higher again also. 

The EU is probably going to have to ration gas to.prevent Member States running out of it in winter. The taps might not turn off in the UK as only a small amount comes from Russia, but fucking hell we'll be paying through the nose for it. 

 

f**k this globalised market pish.

It's time for juche socialism 

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Sure I heard Martin Lewis reporting that there are now several petitions advocating complete non payment of energy bills, along the same line as the resistance against the poll tax. Idea being that if enough people take part (talking millions) the energy companies/government will be forced to take more radical steps to reduce costs as there will simply be to many people to prosecute and/or shut off supply.

Have doubts that enough people would voluntarily sign up to such action but it's completely possible that millions will not pay simply because they can't

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