welshbairn Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 29 minutes ago, TxRover said: That’s the report that North Korea is trying to conceal the sale. They could ship what they want in covered railway wagons without it being known. That's why I doubt the report. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 North Korea to Russia via North Africa is some detour. North Africa is also very vague! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 (edited) 42 minutes ago, welshbairn said: They could ship what they want in covered railway wagons without it being known. That's why I doubt the report. Sketchy lack of details…may not have arrived yet suggests Russia may have diverted shells for Syria and such to their use and replaced with North Korean NOS. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/02/world/europe/russia-ukraine-north-korea-ammunition.html The only problem is a lack of things being exported to Russia from North Korea makes shipments stand out. Edited November 3, 2022 by TxRover 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 I see posts on the internet about how Russia could do this or Ukraine could do that and its all measurements on maps and hand waving. I bite my tongue and think how? Its all right if you are the US or UK and you roll in with god tier logistics and air power like the fist of an angry god. But Russia is horrifically under resourced for the war they are fighting and Ukraine is the second poorest country in Europe after Moldova. This is a huge and empty front line. Perhaps 1000km with 150 000 Russians or 150 per km (your mileage may vary). Its mostly emptiness with OPs (observation posts) and artillery. Its mostly dirt poor farm tracks and farm roads. Most of this war is guys in trenches watching for something moving to call in artillery. There is the utter shithellhole Bakhmut that is sort of tiny Somme. But even then its really small scale compared to the kind of "big war" people expected. My point here is what people are not explaining is the reason the two armies are in semi stale mate is these are not western armies with our huge surplus of logistics. These are two groups of desperately thinly stretched soldiers fighting over a vast area of emptiness with little logistics support. The world on foot is very very different from the world on maps. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 Russians possibly back to shooting deserters… 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 AP News report about the massacres in Bucha. Features very gory pictures right from the start, in case you don't want to see that. https://apnews.com/article/bucha-ukraine-war-cleansing-investigation-43e5a9538e9ba68a035756b05028b8b4 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KirkySuperSub Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 1 hour ago, TxRover said: Russians possibly back to shooting deserters… So is that possibly, maybe? Or Definitely, maybe? How can an "intelligence" update contain so many unknowns? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 15 minutes ago, KirkySuperSub said: So is that possibly, maybe? Or Definitely, maybe? How can an "intelligence" update contain so many unknowns? Military Intelligence- a contradiction of terms. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, jagfox said: Military Intelligence- a contradiction of terms. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 From Medvedev's telegram. Spoiler WHY OUR CAUSE IS RIGHT Answers to simple questions on National Unity Day What are we fighting for? Russia is a huge and rich country. We do not need foreign territories, we have everything in abundance. But there is our land, which is sacred to us, on which our ancestors lived and on which our people live today. And which we will not give to anyone. We protect our people. We are fighting for all our people, for our land, for our thousand-year history. Who is fighting against us? We are fighting against those who hate us, who ban our language, our values and even our faith, who spread hatred towards the history of our Fatherland. Against us today is part of a dying world. This is a bunch of crazy Nazi drug addicts, people drugged and intimidated by them, and a large pack of barking dogs from the western kennel. With them is a motley pack of grunting gilts and narrow-minded inhabitants from the collapsed Western empire with saliva flowing down their chins from degeneration. They have no faith and ideals, except for obscene habits invented by them and standards of doublethink implanted by them, denying the morality bestowed on normal people. Therefore, having risen against them, we have acquired sacred power. Where are our old friends? We were abandoned by some frightened partners - and do not care about them. So, they were not our friends, but just random fellow travelers, sticky and hangers-on. Cowardly traitors and greedy defectors fell to distant lands - let their bones rot in a foreign land. They are not among us, but we have become stronger and cleaner. Why were we silent for a long time? We were weak and devastated by timelessness. And now we have shaken off the sticky dream and the dreary haze of the last decades, into which the death of the former Fatherland plunged us. Other countries awaited our awakening, raped by the masters of darkness, slave owners and oppressors who dream of their monstrous colonial past and yearn to maintain their power over the world. Many countries do not believe their nonsense for a long time, but are still afraid of them. Soon they will wake up completely. And when the rotten world order collapses, it will bury all its arrogant priests, bloodthirsty adepts, mocking servants and dumb mankurts under a multi-ton pile of its debris. What is our weapon? Weapons are different. We have the opportunity to send all enemies to hellfire, but this is not our task. We listen to the words of the Creator in our hearts and obey them. These words give us a sacred purpose. The goal is to stop the supreme ruler of hell, no matter what name he uses - Satan, Lucifer or Iblis. For his goal is death. Our goal is life. His weapon is an intricate lie. And our weapons are Truth. That is why our cause is right. That is why victory will be ours! Happy Holidays! Happy Holidays to you too Dimitrey... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Venom Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 33 minutes ago, jagfox said: From Medvedev's telegram. Reveal hidden contents WHY OUR CAUSE IS RIGHT Answers to simple questions on National Unity Day What are we fighting for? Russia is a huge and rich country. We do not need foreign territories, we have everything in abundance. But there is our land, which is sacred to us, on which our ancestors lived and on which our people live today. And which we will not give to anyone. We protect our people. We are fighting for all our people, for our land, for our thousand-year history. Who is fighting against us? We are fighting against those who hate us, who ban our language, our values and even our faith, who spread hatred towards the history of our Fatherland. Against us today is part of a dying world. This is a bunch of crazy Nazi drug addicts, people drugged and intimidated by them, and a large pack of barking dogs from the western kennel. With them is a motley pack of grunting gilts and narrow-minded inhabitants from the collapsed Western empire with saliva flowing down their chins from degeneration. They have no faith and ideals, except for obscene habits invented by them and standards of doublethink implanted by them, denying the morality bestowed on normal people. Therefore, having risen against them, we have acquired sacred power. Where are our old friends? We were abandoned by some frightened partners - and do not care about them. So, they were not our friends, but just random fellow travelers, sticky and hangers-on. Cowardly traitors and greedy defectors fell to distant lands - let their bones rot in a foreign land. They are not among us, but we have become stronger and cleaner. Why were we silent for a long time? We were weak and devastated by timelessness. And now we have shaken off the sticky dream and the dreary haze of the last decades, into which the death of the former Fatherland plunged us. Other countries awaited our awakening, raped by the masters of darkness, slave owners and oppressors who dream of their monstrous colonial past and yearn to maintain their power over the world. Many countries do not believe their nonsense for a long time, but are still afraid of them. Soon they will wake up completely. And when the rotten world order collapses, it will bury all its arrogant priests, bloodthirsty adepts, mocking servants and dumb mankurts under a multi-ton pile of its debris. What is our weapon? Weapons are different. We have the opportunity to send all enemies to hellfire, but this is not our task. We listen to the words of the Creator in our hearts and obey them. These words give us a sacred purpose. The goal is to stop the supreme ruler of hell, no matter what name he uses - Satan, Lucifer or Iblis. For his goal is death. Our goal is life. His weapon is an intricate lie. And our weapons are Truth. That is why our cause is right. That is why victory will be ours! Happy Holidays! Happy Holidays to you too Dimitrey... Having a normal one 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 ...wibble wibble I'm a teapot stuff from a guy whose main qualification for being Russian president was being even shorter than Vlad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillonearth Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 1 hour ago, jagfox said: From Medvedev's telegram. Hide contents WHY OUR CAUSE IS RIGHT Answers to simple questions on National Unity Day What are we fighting for? Russia is a huge and rich country. We do not need foreign territories, we have everything in abundance. But there is our land, which is sacred to us, on which our ancestors lived and on which our people live today. And which we will not give to anyone. We protect our people. We are fighting for all our people, for our land, for our thousand-year history. Who is fighting against us? We are fighting against those who hate us, who ban our language, our values and even our faith, who spread hatred towards the history of our Fatherland. Against us today is part of a dying world. This is a bunch of crazy Nazi drug addicts, people drugged and intimidated by them, and a large pack of barking dogs from the western kennel. With them is a motley pack of grunting gilts and narrow-minded inhabitants from the collapsed Western empire with saliva flowing down their chins from degeneration. They have no faith and ideals, except for obscene habits invented by them and standards of doublethink implanted by them, denying the morality bestowed on normal people. Therefore, having risen against them, we have acquired sacred power. Where are our old friends? We were abandoned by some frightened partners - and do not care about them. So, they were not our friends, but just random fellow travelers, sticky and hangers-on. Cowardly traitors and greedy defectors fell to distant lands - let their bones rot in a foreign land. They are not among us, but we have become stronger and cleaner. Why were we silent for a long time? We were weak and devastated by timelessness. And now we have shaken off the sticky dream and the dreary haze of the last decades, into which the death of the former Fatherland plunged us. Other countries awaited our awakening, raped by the masters of darkness, slave owners and oppressors who dream of their monstrous colonial past and yearn to maintain their power over the world. Many countries do not believe their nonsense for a long time, but are still afraid of them. Soon they will wake up completely. And when the rotten world order collapses, it will bury all its arrogant priests, bloodthirsty adepts, mocking servants and dumb mankurts under a multi-ton pile of its debris. What is our weapon? Weapons are different. We have the opportunity to send all enemies to hellfire, but this is not our task. We listen to the words of the Creator in our hearts and obey them. These words give us a sacred purpose. The goal is to stop the supreme ruler of hell, no matter what name he uses - Satan, Lucifer or Iblis. For his goal is death. Our goal is life. His weapon is an intricate lie. And our weapons are Truth. That is why our cause is right. That is why victory will be ours! Happy Holidays! Happy Holidays to you too Dimitrey... Just send a card with a robin on it next time, eh? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 Medvedev makes Rishi Sunak look like Shaquille O'Neal. Very small man. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 1 hour ago, ICTChris said: Medvedev makes Rishi Sunak look like Shaquille O'Neal. Very small man. He's got the whole Nazi, Gestapo look though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 8 hours ago, KirkySuperSub said: So is that possibly, maybe? Or Definitely, maybe? How can an "intelligence" update contain so many unknowns? Have you ever worked in a intelligence role, or read their documents? Generally, anything put out is couched in qualifications because the veracity of your sources is often, shall we say, mutable. You are also often dealing with contradictory or divergent data, and have to compose a big picture overview from a mess of local sources. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 On 01/11/2022 at 11:19, TxRover said: Bold choice of feedback for the guy that can cause “technical issues”… Wow @Div has another alias - @Dev. Get them both banned @Tynie Pecksniff 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, strichener said: Wow @Div has another alias - @Dev. Get them both banned @Tynie Pecksniff Mea culpa…blaming the glare 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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