Elixir Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 Putin is an egomaniac who loves himself and the attention, clearly. He'll be wondering what he can do to continue to try and look like a big shot on the nuclear front, without actually doing anything that would subsequently see Moscow and St Petersburg join the rest of Russia in the third world. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Other Foot Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 Good lord. @virginton and @Todd_is_God, your boys are taking one hell of a beating. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 (edited) Collapsing on the other side of the Inhulets river now as well apparently: Edited October 4, 2022 by LongTimeLurker 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 4 hours ago, Newbornbairn said: Added to which, those things have a huge range. They could launch them from Red Square and hit just about anything they wanted - they certainly don't need to put them on a train to get them a bit closer. More of Putin's pish, like when he drove missiles around when he invaded to try and scare the West away from helping Ukraine. I think it's more militaria geeks desperate for a scoop, unless it was nukes disguised as very ordinary looking lorries. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuckleMoo Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 I'm finding the current news cycle fairly disturbing. Most of them mentioning that Russia might lob a low yield nuclear missle over the border into Ukraine as if this is completely normal behaviour. It's like they might be preparing us for something happening 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 2 hours ago, welshbairn said: I think it's more militaria geeks desperate for a scoop, unless it was nukes disguised as very ordinary looking lorries. The vehicles in question are nearly identical between the Border Guard version and the Nuclear Troop version, with just an air filter/intake box as the clearest difference. The vehicles are used by the troops, not the nukes…but I didn’t see any convincing evidence they were clearly the later version. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 (edited) Edited October 5, 2022 by Newbornbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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welshbairn Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 8 hours ago, welshbairn said: I think it's more militaria geeks desperate for a scoop, unless it was nukes disguised as very ordinary looking lorries. 5 hours ago, TxRover said: The vehicles in question are nearly identical between the Border Guard version and the Nuclear Troop version, with just an air filter/intake box as the clearest difference. The vehicles are used by the troops, not the nukes…but I didn’t see any convincing evidence they were clearly the later version. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 5 hours ago, Newbornbairn said: Email that to Ant and Dec. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Orla Guerin report from Lyman. Pretty grim scenes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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welshbairn Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 6 hours ago, Newbornbairn said: Do many people in Ukraine still have gold fillings? Looks dubious to me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Kirill Stremousov, deputy head of the collaborator administation in Kherson, has said that Russian forces in the region are regrouping. Remains to be seen if they are regrouping the way they did in Kharkiv, ie leaving in disarray, or if they are actually regrouping to more defensible lines. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 10 hours ago, MuckleMoo said: I'm finding the current news cycle fairly disturbing. Most of them mentioning that Russia might lob a low yield nuclear missle over the border into Ukraine as if this is completely normal behaviour. It's like they might be preparing us for something happening Where? There is absolutely zero credible evidence that Russia has changed their nuclear posture. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Khaki Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 4 hours ago, welshbairn said: Do many people in Ukraine still have gold fillings? Looks dubious to me. Not after the Russians have got hold of them! Badumm...tish! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 BBC Russia reports that a military intelligence special forces unit may have lost up to 75% of it's men. https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/10/05/elite-russian-intelligence-unit-suffers-major-losses-in-ukraine-bbc-a78980 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, ICTChris said: BBC Russia reports that a military intelligence special forces unit may have lost up to 75% of it's men. Surely it shouldn't be too hard for military intelligence to find out where they are? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dev Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 www.newsweek.com/czech-petition-annexing-kaliningrad-russia-signed-thousands-1749063?piano_t=1 I see the Czechs are poking fun at the Russians by coming up with a "Joke" petition for the return of Kaliningrad to the rightful owners i.e. the Czech Republic. Kaliningrad is Russia's enclave on the Baltic and their only ice-free winter port on the Baltic Sea. The story goes: " Czech Petition on Annexing Kaliningrad From Russia Signed by Thousands BY GIULIA CARBONARO ON 10/5/22 AT 9:54 AM EDT In the aftermath of Russia's illegal annexation of parts of Ukraine's territory in the southwestern region of the country, politicians in the Czech Republic have been joking about dividing the Russian Kaliningrad region. Now, a satirical petition launched by Czechs to do just that has been signed by over 13,000 people. Kaliningrad—known as Královec in Czech—sits 412 miles west of the rest of Russia, sandwiched between Poland and Lithuania. The city, originally founded in the 13th century by Teutonic knights and also known as Königsberg, or King's Rock, became over time the capital of Prussia, and later belonged to Poland, Germany, the Soviet Union, and now Russia. During World War II, Kaliningrad, which had been part of Germany until then, and was one of its most important cities, was snatched by Joseph Stalin from Adolf Hitler. At the Potsdam Conference in 1945, the Allies agreed to give the region to the USSR. After the fall of the Soviet Union, Kaliningrad became an exclave of the Russian Federation, becoming in time quite isolated in the region as the Baltic states joined the European Union in 2004. The petition launched by the Czech jokesters claims it is time for Russia to return Kaliningrad to the Czech Republic, according to the same logic the Kremlin is using to annex Ukrainian territory. "We believe that Russia has played with Kaliningrad for too long and it is time to send it one state back again, as has already become the custom in the less than 800 years of its existence. And since the city was founded in honor of the Czech king, it should pass into the hands of the rightful owner—the Czech Republic," the petition reads. "As Russia showed us in Crimea and is now showing us in the east of Ukraine, it is perfectly fine to step onto the territory of a foreign state, announce a referendum there and then annex the territory. We thus had a unique opportunity to expand the Czech territory and finally gain access to the sea," it continued. "We, therefore, demand the government of the Czech Republic to send Czech soldiers to Kaliningrad, announce a referendum that will end with a result of 98 percent in favor of joining the Czech Republic, and subsequently annex Kaliningrad and rename it Královec." The petition has already collected over 13,000 signatures. "According to Russian standards, Kaliningrad belongs only to us!" commented one of the signees. "The Czech Republic deserves the sea and the residents of Kaliningrad want to belong to the Czech Republic!" another joked. "I feel the need to protect the daughters and sons of the Kingdom of Bohemia in this city!" wrote another, mentioning Russian President Vladimir Putin's proclaimed need to invade Ukraine in order to defend Russian citizens in the neighboring country. The idea to annex Kaliningrad into the Czech Republic has also been ironically embraced by European Parliament member Tomáš Zdechovský. On Monday, Zdechovsky reposted a tweet from a Polish author, that said: "The time has come to divide Kaliningrad so that our Czech brothers finally have access to the sea." The MEP said that if Moscow is willing to launch sham referendums in Ukraine and illegally annex the country's territory, then it should be ready to discuss the status of Kaliningrad. In Russia, his comments were taken seriously by one website, which called his joke a "revanchist statement." Zdechovský dismissed Russia's concerns as too serious. "I think that the debate is legitimate and that Russia should really consider its future international moves," he told iDnes, the online edition of the Czech newspaper Mladá fronta DNES. "I think the Russians take themselves too seriously, both in terms of politics and in terms of international relations. "We need to hold a mirror to them more and show that we are not afraid of them and their threats and that we are ready to support Ukraine in its struggle for the return of all territories," he said. On Twitter, a new account appeared under the name of "KralovecCzechia" on Tuesday, jokingly announcing that a referendum has been held in Kaliningrad and the region has now joined the Czech Republic. "Welcome to the official profile of Královec. After a successful referendum, 97.9% of Kaliningrad residents decided to merge with the Czech Republic and rename Kaliningrad to Královec," one tweet reads. Other satirical posts shared by the account show a new Euro banknote for Kaliningrad, and Kaliningrad's citizens celebrating joining the Czech Republic by waving the Czech flag. The profile already has over 35,000 followers. On Wednesday, Vladimir Putin officially signed laws annexing four Ukrainian regions into Russia, despite Moscow troops suffering setbacks on the battlefields in these same areas. The exact geographical borders of the territories annexed were not detailed by the Russian leader. Newsweek reached out to Tomáš Zdechovský and the organizers of the petition for comment." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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