Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 On 16/07/2022 at 11:47, 101 said: We're fucked if China fancy a scrap America has the CIA, we have MI5, Russia has the KGB and China has MSG. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 36 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: I wonder if they have interpreters? For the Ukranians or the weegies? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Hillonearth said: It's a mistake that many people make that having an army of 80,000 (actually 73,500 as of 1 April this year) means being having 80,000 you're able to put on a battlefield to fight....in most modern armies, there's a lot more tail than tooth involved. Looking at the most recent UK army numbers by corps, https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/how-many-soldiers-are-in-each-british-army-regiment/ there are over 5000 medical staff and a couple of hundred chaplains who have no combatant role for starters, along with 600-odd musicians to cover all the ceremonial stuff our military has boxed itself into doing. Add in all the other corps who would only be involved in a battle in the loosest sense; the admin staff (3-4000), REME (7500 mechanics who would be behind the lines recovering and repairing stuff) RLC logistics staff (10,000 drivers, storemen and whatever - a friend of mine in the military used to call them the Really Large Corps because so many of them were out of shape as f**k) signallers and intelligence corps (over 7000 combined) whose roles are probably increasing in importance given the rise of cyber warfare but don't have a traditional war-fighting role. That's half of your 73,500 right there that aren't traditional fighting troops, and you can also subtract all the ones that are who are medically unfit or under training. You forgot this cuntbag, Britain's own Rambo, worth a Regiment alone. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Todd_is_God said: Just like shutting down society for Covid, it should have been obvious that prolonging this war would have widespread economic consequences. As usual, though, the virtue signalling, bandwagon jumping public blindly followed each in other in demanding both, and are now crying about the impact on their finances. You reap what you sow. The solution, of course, lies in ending the war ASAP, not in escalation that almost certainly will end with Russia launching nuclear weapons when they are on the brink of defeat. I used to think when I read western journalists, foreign policy experts and politicians talking about how the Russian economy is insignificant that it was just propaganda to hoodwink gullible members of the public. It turns out they actually did believe it which is quite scary. Edited July 17, 2022 by Detournement 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 7 hours ago, Newbornbairn said: Middle class w****r inconvenienced, wants working class boys sent to die for his lifestyle. Lucky the working class gather kindling from the woods and coal fallen from trains for their energy needs and so are unaffected. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 8 hours ago, Detournement said: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jul/17/putin-is-already-at-war-with-europe-there-is-only-one-way-to-stop-him Simon Tisdall's Observer column grimly notes that the sanctions he was demanding months ago have crippled Europe. Apparently it's easily solved by going to war with Russia though. Tisdall is now a genuinely unhinged individual. The support by Western liberals for a full on 1950s-era rollback strategy against a nuclear superpower is alarming. Just take the L on your hare-brained response and let the adults back into the room. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 (edited) Lots of talk on twitter that Ukraine will be receiving the 300 km range ATACMS missiles for the HIMARS soon. At that point things get interesting because: Edited July 18, 2022 by LongTimeLurker 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Zelensky has fired the head of the Ukrainian security service (SBU) and the head of the prosecutors office. One of the reasons given for this is the number of collaboraters particularly in the Southern regions. In the statement it was noted that around 60 employees of the SBU and the prosecutor are currently working for Russia in the occupied areas in the South. Perhaps this is part of the reason why Russia made faster advances in the South at the outset of the war than it did in the North or even in the Donbas. There were lots of different factors behind that as well - terrain, better Russian logistics, Ukrainina forces concentrating on Kyiv etc. It is also noteworthy that even with this the Russian advance in the South was stopped outside Mykoliav. More footage of Russian ammunication stores being destroyed is coming out today. Another strike in Kherson region I also haven't seen it mentioned but there was another horrific missile attack on civilian infrastructure when Russian missiles hit Vinnystia. Footage from the attacks show the bodies of a number of children in the aftermath of the strike, truly awful. These attacks are just becoming routine now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 Difficult to overstate how big a step it would be for NATO to provide Ukraine with weaponry that enables them to take pot shots at the Black Sea Fleet's naval base in Sevastopol and the Kerch Bridge. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lofarl Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11028311/Russia-nuke-England-not-harm-Scotland-Wales-say-Putin-propagandists.html Shitebags if they dont. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 The Ukrainians appear to be shifting towards key infrastructure with HIMARS now that the low hanging fruit on ammunition depots have been taken out: There are three major bridges into the Kherson area from Russian occupied territory (two by road over the Dniepr and Inhulets rivers and one by rail over the Dniepr). If those are taken out Russia's hold on that part of Ukraine probably quickly becomes untenable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 Western sanctions finally prove highly effective in bringing down an unpopular regime. Spoiler It's Italy. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jul/21/italy-far-right-brothers-of-italy-mario-draghi Still, I'm sure that Italy going full-on neofascist is a cost that We All Must Accept as the price of a moronic sanctions policy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 Rumours that an agreement will be signed tomorrow allowing the export of Ukrainian grain. NYT report says that Ukrainian crews will steer the boats out then hand them over to foreign crews who will take the boats to Turkey. Erdogan and his government helped broker the deal. As with all of these deals the potential for it falling apart is high. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lofarl Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 Deals done. Seems odd to me because why would Russia allow for its part Ukraine to sell grain. Which can then be used to buy weapons. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 Think it's a case of NATO giving weapons more than the Ukrainians buying them right now. They've got no chance of capturing Odessa any time soon so it probably all revolves around not getting the blame for famines in certain parts of the Middle East and North Africa over the next year or so. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 25 minutes ago, Lofarl said: Deals done. Seems odd to me because why would Russia allow for its part Ukraine to sell grain. Which can then be used to buy weapons. Russia get to export grain and fertiliser via the Black Sea as part of the deal as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 American Switchblade drones have failed to live up to the hype by all accounts but they are sending more of the larger Phoenix Ghost ones along with 4 extra HIMARS vehicles. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve55 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 5 hours ago, Lofarl said: Deals done. Seems odd to me because why would Russia allow for its part Ukraine to sell grain. Which can then be used to buy weapons. Ukraine aint buying weapons we are paying for it. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 No ATACMS for Ukraine: So the Kerch Bridge is safe for now. Have to wonder if that's linked to the grain deal in some way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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