Russian invasion of Ukraine

[budmiester1]

1 hour ago, strichener said:

Just tried this with an iPhone in the North Sea.  You owe me an iPhone. 

[ICTChris]

Long article on BBC Russian about the impact of the war in the Russian language in Ukraine and on specific Russian speakers.

https://www.bbc.com/russian/features-61081654
 

Basically, the Russian interventions in 2014 effectively killed the Russian language in Ukraine in the medium to long term, the aggressive invasion of 2022 will probably speed up this process.

[Hillonearth]

20 minutes ago, ICTChris said:

Long article on BBC Russian about the impact of the war in the Russian language in Ukraine and on specific Russian speakers.

https://www.bbc.com/russian/features-61081654
 

Basically, the Russian interventions in 2014 effectively killed the Russian language in Ukraine in the medium to long term, the aggressive invasion of 2022 will probably speed up this process.

I saw something recently about how thanks to the last six weeks or so, many Russian speakers in the surrounding countries are now actively eschewing the language in everyday life and using the local alternative...whether that's down to the understandable stigma of using it at the moment or a conscious decision to not give Putin a pretext to use the Hitler playbook and make a move on the place to "protect" the Russophone minority is open to debate. Either way, the language seems at least in the short term to be on the way out in the Stans, the Baltics and so on.

 

[Zen Archer (Raconteur)]

 

 

[Carl Cort's Hamstring]

[SuperSaints1877]

[SuperSaints1877]

[ICTChris]

Fire and a storm is it?

 

[SuperSaints1877]

[Melanius Mullarkey]

Absolutely fair play to the Ukrainians here. 

[Carl Cort's Hamstring]

Quite something to lose your fleet's flagship to an enemy that doesn't have a functioning navy.

Not quite as bad as when, in the 18th century, the Dutch navy had an entire fleet captured at sea by a French cavalry regiment, but pretty embarrassing nonetheless.

[Zen Archer (Raconteur)]

1 minute ago, Carl Cort's Hamstring said:

Quite something to lose your fleet's flagship to an enemy that doesn't have a functioning navy.

Not quite as bad as when, in the 18th century, the Dutch navy had an entire fleet captured at sea by a French cavalry regiment, but pretty embarrassing nonetheless.

Not as bad as losing the Vasa.

[Hillonearth]

Obviously we're unlikely to hear the true casualty figures anytime soon, but it's almost sounding like an HMS Hood vibe here:

 

 

[ICTChris]

There are reports that 54 sailors from the Moskva were picked up by a Turkish vessel.

[Boo Khaki]

Regardless of the rights and wrongs of what is going on, I hope as many of those poor buggers got out as possible. It's a horrible, horrible way to die. My absolute worst nightmare.

[Melanius Mullarkey]

4 minutes ago, Hillonearth said:

Obviously we're unlikely to hear the true casualty figures anytime soon, but it's almost sounding like an HMS Hood vibe here:

 

 

14 Russian soldiers unable to cash in their bets at their local Willski Hillskis.

[Dan Steele]

7 minutes ago, Melanius Mullarkay said:

14 Russian soldiers unable to cash in their bets at their local Willski Hillskis.

Or Vladbrokes.

[ICTChris]

Russia should apply to join NATO to give it some protection from Ukraine.

[SuperSaints1877]

15 minutes ago, Boo Khaki said:

Regardless of the rights and wrongs of what is going on, I hope as many of those poor buggers got out as possible. It's a horrible, horrible way to die. My absolute worst nightmare.

There have been far worse ways to die during this conflict. These guys signed up for duty.

I can’t even begin to imagine how it must be to be a Ukrainian farmer who is tortured, then have to watch while your wife and daughters are raped and then killed in front of your eyes before being executed.

[Carl Cort's Hamstring]

You wonder how long the Russian government can keep up the pretence that everything is going to plan when things like this happen. It must be the first sinking in the history of naval warfare where both sides have claimed responsiblity.