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1 hour ago, TxRover said:

Kaliningrad, better? I know you never err, but where you been?

Well no, because it was the idea of Kaliningrad breaking away was in fact the source of ridicule.

It's an exclave packed with Russian veteran meatheads and their families, who have no interest in the likely domination by a foreign neighbour that breaking away from Russia would involve. You couldn't have chosen a more ridiculous example if you were a monkey throwing darts at the map. 

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4 hours ago, virginton said:

Well no, because it was the idea of Kaliningrad breaking away was in fact the source of ridicule.

It's an exclave packed with Russian veteran meatheads and their families, who have no interest in the likely domination by a foreign neighbour that breaking away from Russia would involve. You couldn't have chosen a more ridiculous example if you were a monkey throwing darts at the map. 

IDK, while the emptying of the Germans and replacement with Russians resulted in todays 87% ethnic Russian population, if Russia itself moves in a more progressive direction, Belarus or Poland (assuming a more rightward swing in the manner of Hungary) might be interesting to them. But, your mileage may vary.

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Guardian report on the mobilisation effort. 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/sep/22/my-heart-sank-with-news-of-draft-russians-flee-in-droves?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

I wonder what the affect on the Russian economy this will have. There have been photographs leaked showing Gazprom engineers being called up, which is pretty astonishing given the importance of that colony and sector to Russia.

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5 hours ago, TxRover said:

IDK, while the emptying of the Germans and replacement with Russians resulted in todays 87% ethnic Russian population, if Russia itself moves in a more progressive direction, Belarus or Poland (assuming a more rightward swing in the manner of Hungary) might be interesting to them. But, your mileage may vary.

^^^ word salad

The Russian population of Kaliningrad are not and never will opt for Polish rule. In the same way that Texas is not going to opt for rule by Mexico. 

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57 minutes ago, ICTChris said:

Guardian report on the mobilisation effort. 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/sep/22/my-heart-sank-with-news-of-draft-russians-flee-in-droves?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

I wonder what the affect on the Russian economy this will have. There have been photographs leaked showing Gazprom engineers being called up, which is pretty astonishing given the importance of that colony and sector to Russia.

There must be quite a few Nordstream engineers with free time until they start shifting supply lines to the South East. I doubt the middle class flight will make much difference to Putin's conscription efforts, most people won't be able to afford travelling abroad without a job to go to.

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3 hours ago, virginton said:

^^^ word salad

The Russian population of Kaliningrad are not and never will opt for Polish rule. In the same way that Texas is not going to opt for rule by Mexico. 

Funny you should say that, as the Independent Texas Movement here has a plan for a Confederation with Mexico, with the belief the industrious Anglos in Texas will dominate that arrangement and then be able to create a Greater Texas.

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1 minute ago, jagfox said:

I'm 115% certain the occupied territories will vote to join Russia...

Voting ends on Tuesday but they already had the turnout figures early this morning, these Russian pollsters don't f**k about.

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MOSCOW, September 23, 2022. The All-Russian Public Opinion Research Center (VTsIOM) presents data from a survey commissioned by the Expert Institute for Social Research (EISI) among residents of the DPR, LPR, Zaporozhye and Kherson regions on voting on the issue of territorial belonging of these regions.

Most of the residents of the DPR, LPR, Zaporozhye and Kherson regions surveyed declare their intention to take part in the voting on the issue of the territorial affiliation of these regions. The maximum declared turnout was recorded in the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics - 87% each. In the Zaporozhye region, the figure was 80%, in the Kherson region - 69%.

The absolute majority of the polled residents of the DPR and LPR, who are ready to take part in the referendum, are in favor of the republics joining the Russian Federation as subjects of the Russian Federation (97% each). Difficult to answer or undecided on the decision for 3%. The polled residents of Zaporozhye and Kherson regions, declaring their intention to take part in the voting, also support secession from Ukraine and the inclusion of regions into Russia as its subjects (87% and 89%, respectively). 2% of the residents of these regions oppose such a decision, every tenth found it difficult to answer or has not yet decided (11% and 9%, respectively).

https://wciom-ru.translate.goog/analytical-reviews/analiticheskii-obzor/referendumy-na-ukraine-javka-i-golosovanie?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc

 

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Russian authorities plan to conscript 1.2 million people for their “partial mobilization,” Meduza has learned from a source close to one of the country’s federal ministries.

Additionally, a source close to Moscow’s leadership told Meduza that up to 16,000 people from the capital are slated to be drafted. This was confirmed by a source close to one of Russia’s federal ministries. Authorities in St. Petersburg plan to draft roughly 3,200 people, according to a source close to the Presidential Envoy to Russia’s Northwestern Federal District.

A source close to one of the country’s federal ministries noted that authorities “recommended keeping recruitments to a minimum” in regional capitals. Instead, the government is conscripting people “in rural areas, where there’s no media, no opposition, and more support [for the war],” said the source.

https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/09/23/russia-to-conscript-up-to-1-2-million-people

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