dirty dingus Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 9 minutes ago, ICTChris said: A holiday in Kazakhstan sounds intriguing though. What are the tourist attractions there? I've seen they have a be part of the space program tour where your basically giving an all access tour except wearing the astronauts underwear. Also remember Simon Reeve visiting and saying the roadway verges were full of hash plants. My cousin done the Stans a couple o years ago and said it was well worth it. Her and her man done Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan and really enjoyed it. Thinking of doing overland from Asia to Europe this winter as a pretty much last hurrah so would be interested in visiting. Had tickets to do the Trans Siberian but got cancelled due to covid but Russia being c***s has kiboshed that so a tour of central Asia into Eurasia is a good option for me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 6 minutes ago, dirty dingus said: I've seen they have a be part of the space program tour where your basically giving an all access tour except wearing the astronauts underwear. Saw a snippet of An Idiot Abroad last night where he got to go on the whirly G simulator and got offered a ride on a zero g vomit comet plane, but he failed the medical or bottled it, wasn't clear. Far more than you'd get in Florida anyway and they'd probably let you get a lot closer than 10 miles away from a launch. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 1 minute ago, welshbairn said: Saw a snippet of An Idiot Abroad last night where he got to go on the whirly G simulator and got offered a ride on a zero g vomit comet plane, but he failed the medical or bottled it, wasn't clear. Far more than you'd get in Florida anyway and they'd probably let you get a lot closer than 10 miles away from a launch. Aye it was some English guy doing the whole space experience, was interesting till he decided to swim in a radioactive lake as Kazakhstan had the highest level of land based detonated nukes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 6 hours ago, ICTChris said: ....I’m don’t think the Russian Army would be told to fight the way the Soviet and then Germans were at Stalingrad. I don’t know if they could do it even if they were. Water supply to Crimea is on the line at Nova Kakhovka. Don't think they will leave as quickly and easily as they did from around Kyiv because of how important that is for Putin to be able to claim some form of victory. It was just a feint would be more difficult to sell in this context because people know Putin was serious about wanting "Novorossiya" to return to his reich back in 2014 after Yanukovych fled. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernLights Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 6 hours ago, ICTChris said: There are always plenty up for doing it. I wonder which P&Bers would be collaborators if Scotland were invaded by an occupying force? 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandcowden Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 11 hours ago, Detournement said: My point was aimed at people who get very excited at news of dead Russians but seem completely disinterested in Ukrainian casualties. Course it was,blahblahblah 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillonearth Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 11 hours ago, welshbairn said: I'm sure there would have been plenty been lining up here to work for the Nazis if the Germans had occupied us. Well, yeah. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Hints from Ukrainian officials that they're planning more of a siege of Kherson rather than a rapid attack, cutting them off from the South Eastern side of the river and slowly grinding them down. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoDiego Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 A holiday in Kazakhstan sounds intriguing though. What are the tourist attractions there?I've been a couple of times on holiday. There are lots of stunningly beautiful areas near the Chinese border, Shymkent is a lovely city, plenty going on in Almaty, Lake Balkhash has a certain je ne sais quois. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Electricity and water supplies down in Kherson, Russians are saying. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 12 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Electricity and water supplies down in Kherson, Russians are saying. The NATO playbook in action. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 The NATO playbook in action. Have you got a copy you could post a link to so we can all read the NATO playbook ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Cutting supplies has been siege tactics for thousands of years. The Russian playbook would be to flatten the city, block by block. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Bully Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Gazprom shutting down Nord Stream for 3 days for “maintenance”. Russia must be feeling the pressure. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 7 minutes ago, Wee Bully said: Gazprom shutting down Nord Stream for 3 days for “maintenance”. Russia must be feeling the pressure. That's been planned for about 2 weeks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 5 hours ago, welshbairn said: Hints from Ukrainian officials that they're planning more of a siege of Kherson rather than a rapid attack, cutting them off from the South Eastern side of the river and slowly grinding them down. Given how vulnerable tanks, fighter planes and helicopters appear to be to shoulder-fired missiles I doubt we'll be seeing any rapid WWII style advances any time soon now the element of surprise has completely gone. A rapid attack is probably as likely to go as well for the Ukrainians right now as the Battle of the Somme did for the 36th Ulster Division with tanks and aircraft largely out of the picture and the Russians still not running out of armaments or willing manpower yet. The Ukrainians do appear to be taking some villages and that's probably as good as it gets for them until the problem of supplying across the Dniepr more severely imits what the Russians are able to do. Post stuff like this not because I'm sure I'm right about it but to see if anyone can tell me why I'm wrong. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 33 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: That's been planned for about 2 weeks A year more like. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 55 minutes ago, welshbairn said: A year more like. No https://www.linkedin.com/posts/auxilione_auxilione-price-cap-daily-20020819-activity-6967363268323512320-Zs6a?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_android -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, LongTimeLurker said: Given how vulnerable tanks, fighter planes and helicopters appear to be to shoulder-fired missiles I doubt we'll be seeing any rapid WWII style advances any time soon now the element of surprise has completely gone. Don’t mistake the easy kills on Russian tanks for a lesson other than the need for infantry support. Many of the videos shown of Russian tanks “popping their tops” simply showed that the Russians had little to no infantry support deployed to support the armor. That just lets Dzhon Smit loose an anti-tank round from close range, with crippling effectiveness. If the combined arms playbook was followed, old Dzhon wouldn’t have been able to get close enough to those convoys, etc, due to infantry moving on, and protecting, the flanks. Secondly, the steady attrition of the Russian air defence units by AGM-88’s now being used by the Ukrainians hurts your argument about planes and helos, but those aren’t the shoulder-fired units you refer to. In the shoulder-fired category, there is a very limited engagement range (8 km and 3,500 m for the Stinger) that generally limits their use to against very low flying ground attack aircraft, helos and drones. We’ve seen very little evidence of either side using low flying ground attack aircraft, and the videos of dosing helos were from early in the war, so probably the primary use of Stingers and such has been anti drone. Having noted that, the use of drones and precision artillery has pretty much done what you suggest and slowed attacks. Edited August 30, 2022 by TxRover 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 14 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: No https://www.linkedin.com/posts/auxilione_auxilione-price-cap-daily-20020819-activity-6967363268323512320-Zs6a?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_android You think most of the temporary closures and cuts in volume weren't planned in advance for leverage against sanctions and military aid to Ukraine? Like all the military exercises planned ages ago in Belarus and Eastern Russia for January and February? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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