Sergeant Wilson Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Todd_is_God said: Again, this dodges the question. How high are we, the public, prepared to allow our energy bills to climb for the sake of Ukraine? It doesn't. It's quite clear, if it's an either or, Ukraine would be hung out to dry. Maybe the winter will see more questions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Salvo Montalbano said: And maybe, just maybe, anti-Russian sentiment isn't helped by the fact that they have fucking invaded another country? Aye they really crossed a line there.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Sergeant Wilson said: It doesn't. It's quite clear, if it's an either or, Ukraine would be hung out to dry. Maybe the winter will see more questions. The only questions this winter will see being asked is how much help the Government are going to be handing out to offset the increases. Questioning the root cause will remain completely taboo. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, Newbornbairn said: What you going to do about it? Send a STRONGLY WORDED email to Putin? ^^^ Thinks the increases are the direct result of Putin's actions 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Stunned to See Todd's stance on Ukraine is almost identical to his Covid stance ie this is having an effect on my life personally so get it stopped. For scientists / govt now read "The West".It's an amazingly simplistic and narrow view on life, you really need to look at a massive bigger picture here. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: Stunned to See Todd's stance on Ukraine is almost identical to his Covid stance ie this is having an effect on my life personally so get it stopped. For scientists / govt now read "The West". It's an amazingly simplistic and narrow view on life, you really need to look at a massive bigger picture here. I mean, pretty much everything I said about Covid restrictions ended up being correct so I'm not entirely sure what point you are trying to make here. Massive Bigger Picture ≠ What looks good. Ending the war in Ukraine ASAP is clearly what the preferred outcome for everyone is, so again I'm not sure what point you are making. To use your analogy, though, Ukraine winning this war, and, in doing so, claiming back the territory it has lost is the new "Zero Covid". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 31 minutes ago, Detournement said: Aye they really crossed a line there.... 38 minutes ago, Detournement said: Aye they really crossed a line there.... Countries full of brown people don't count. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Reports, videos and photographs of explosions at the Saki Airbase in Crimea. This is the base of a Naval Attack Aviation Regiment. it is around 250km from Ukrainian held territory so a bit of a puzzle about how they were hit, assuming Ukraine did it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 (edited) They've got anti-ship missiles with that sort of range and a naval base is presumably right next to the Black Sea. Edit: here's a more mundane explanation. and then when I scan through the replies: Edited August 9, 2022 by LongTimeLurker 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Not the only surprisingly long-range strike today apparently and there's presumably no way an anti-ship missile did this other one given the location: Maybe Joe Biden finally decided that it was a case of alle waffen gegen Putler and sent ATACMS? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 (edited) With Ukraine reaching the heart of Crimea it will be a bit of headache for the Ruskies. Edited August 9, 2022 by dirty dingus 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 (edited) That's putting it mildly. Check out the Kerch bridge on that map in relation to the frontline south of Zaporizhzhia in distance terms relative to what presumably happened with the attack on the airbase. Not too much further. Edited August 9, 2022 by LongTimeLurker 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Fucking hell. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 I mean, pretty much everything I said about Covid restrictions ended up being correct so I'm not entirely sure what point you are trying to make here. Massive Bigger Picture ≠ What looks good. Ending the war in Ukraine ASAP is clearly what the preferred outcome for everyone is, so again I'm not sure what point you are making. To use your analogy, though, Ukraine winning this war, and, in doing so, claiming back the territory it has lost is the new "Zero Covid".Ah another one advocating Ukraine just roll over and let Russia take what it wants all because.... my gas is going up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Latest appears to be that it was indigenous Ukrainian weaponry probably based on the Neptune anti-ship missiles that took out the Moskva: maybe this only now became feasible because of the anti-radar missiles that the Americans provided: taking out Russian air defences. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Russian tourists causing traffic jams as they try to get out of Crimea 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 3 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said: Not the only surprisingly long-range strike today apparently and there's presumably no way an anti-ship missile did this other one given the location… The only problem with that presumption is that an anti-ship missile CAN do just that. The Russians have been using anti-ship missiles repurposed for land attack. The accuracy is likely somewhat degraded, but needs must… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Going to tricky to buff that out. Lots of different suggestions as to what was used. Loitering munitions, cruise missiles, HIMARs, sabotage. The honest answer is that no-one knows. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 On 07/04/2022 at 19:34, sophia said: You name will also go on the list @Elixir @Blue Brazil Forever @Firefoxer @steve55 @Captain Saintsible @Detournement 9 hours ago, Todd_is_God said: This argument doesn't hold up as nobody gives a f**k when anyone else invades their neighbour. How high are we, the public, prepared to allow our energy bills to climb for the sake of Ukraine? 7 hours ago, Todd_is_God said: I mean, pretty much everything I said about Covid restrictions ended up being correct Your name will also go on the list, what is it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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