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1 minute ago, alta-pete said:

@renton  always interesting and well informed (if, for me, a little over-technical) stuff. Where are you/did you get to in the armed forces? Do we have a Rear Admiral or Field Marshal among our number? (And feel free to tell me to GTF if that’s a prying question!) 

Nah, I work in the tech industry. The engineering is interesting, if entirely depressing.

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In both cases new language laws that sidelined Russian in a big way caused unrest in heavily Russophone areas.
Most people in Crimea never really wanted to be part of Ukraine. Khruschev moved it from Russia to Ukraine pretty much on a personal whim in the 1950s.
Putin often claims that Lenin did much the same where the Donbas was concerned when the Ukrainian SSR was formed but that's not quite as clear cut.
Transnistria wasn't historically part of Moldova and was added to it under dubious circumstances by Stalin.
There were always likely to be tensions when Soviet republics turned into sovereign independent states in other words because a lot of people thought the lines on the map were in the wrong place.


I've never understood why Crimea voted to join Ukraine in the first place.
Early 1991 Crimea votes to become an autonomous SSR with a 94% yes vote and 81% turnout. Late 1991 the Crimean ASSR votes to become a part of Ukraine in the independence referendum with 54% yes vote and 60% turnout.

Why did so many people not vote? Was there a general boycott or something? Seems a bit crazy considering the importance of the occasion.
Other regions like Donetsk, Kharkov, Luhansk and Odessa had relatively low turnout as well.
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2 minutes ago, charger29 said:

 


I've never understood why Crimea voted to join Ukraine in the first place.
Early 1991 Crimea votes to become an autonomous SSR with a 94% yes vote and 81% turnout. Late 1991 the Crimean ASSR votes to become a part of Ukraine in the independence referendum with 54% yes vote and 60% turnout.

Why did so many people not vote? Was there a general boycott or something? Seems a bit crazy considering the importance of the occasion.
Other regions like Donetsk, Kharkov, Luhansk and Odessa had relatively low turnout as well.

NATO mumble Soros mumble deep state, rather than the more realistic apathy and ignorance no doubt. If you live in the gutter regardless what does it matter who's in the big hoose.

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NATO mumble Soros mumble deep state, rather than the more realistic apathy and ignorance no doubt. If you live in the gutter regardless what does it matter who's in the big hoose.


Apathy and ignorance doesn't seem to add up. Several other votes held around that time in Crimea got very large turnouts. The independence referendum alone was low.
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3 hours ago, renton said:

Well, the last UK defence review made a big thing about "contesting the electromagnetic" space - and there is to be a doubling of Electronic Warfare troops in the British Army. So suspect there is a big push to try and counter drones via jamming.

I can't wait to see the Bob Marley regiment.

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Russia's deputy foreign minister says he hopes Transnitria isn't drawn into Russian-Ukraine conflict so Moscow isn't forced to intervene there, according to Russian state media. "We would like to avoid such a scenario," says Andrey Rudenko.

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In both cases new language laws that sidelined Russian in a big way caused unrest in heavily Russophone areas.
Most people in Crimea never really wanted to be part of Ukraine. Khruschev moved it from Russia to Ukraine pretty much on a personal whim in the 1950s.
Putin often claims that Lenin did much the same where the Donbas was concerned when the Ukrainian SSR was formed but that's not quite as clear cut.
Transnistria wasn't historically part of Moldova and was added to it under dubious circumstances by Stalin.
There were always likely to be tensions when Soviet republics turned into sovereign independent states in other words because a lot of people thought the lines on the map were in the wrong place.
A bit like the Middle East.
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22 hours ago, ICTChris said:

I was just about to post that. Small drones can get past air defence systems designed to look for planes. A lot of people thought that the Russians had equipment to jam and take out drones but it doesn’t seem to be the case. 

Makes you wonder what could happen if/when the UK or the US has to engage with an enemy who have drone capabilities.

We'll find out soon enough when Ukraine skelps Russia's arse...

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US intelligence sharing with Ukraine has been crucial and, according to this report, helped Ukraine direct fire including shooting down a Russian troop transport plane in the initial battle at Hostomel Airport.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/us-intel-helped-ukraine-protect-air-defenses-shoot-russian-plane-carry-rcna26015

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