budmiester1 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 1 hour ago, strichener said: Just tried this with an iPhone in the North Sea. You owe me an iPhone. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 Long article on BBC Russian about the impact of the war in the Russian language in Ukraine and on specific Russian speakers. https://www.bbc.com/russian/features-61081654 Basically, the Russian interventions in 2014 effectively killed the Russian language in Ukraine in the medium to long term, the aggressive invasion of 2022 will probably speed up this process. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillonearth Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 20 minutes ago, ICTChris said: Long article on BBC Russian about the impact of the war in the Russian language in Ukraine and on specific Russian speakers. https://www.bbc.com/russian/features-61081654 Basically, the Russian interventions in 2014 effectively killed the Russian language in Ukraine in the medium to long term, the aggressive invasion of 2022 will probably speed up this process. I saw something recently about how thanks to the last six weeks or so, many Russian speakers in the surrounding countries are now actively eschewing the language in everyday life and using the local alternative...whether that's down to the understandable stigma of using it at the moment or a conscious decision to not give Putin a pretext to use the Hitler playbook and make a move on the place to "protect" the Russophone minority is open to debate. Either way, the language seems at least in the short term to be on the way out in the Stans, the Baltics and so on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Cort's Hamstring Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSaints1877 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ICTChris Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 Fire and a storm is it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Melanius Mullarkey Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 Absolutely fair play to the Ukrainians here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Cort's Hamstring Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 Quite something to lose your fleet's flagship to an enemy that doesn't have a functioning navy. Not quite as bad as when, in the 18th century, the Dutch navy had an entire fleet captured at sea by a French cavalry regiment, but pretty embarrassing nonetheless. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Carl Cort's Hamstring said: Quite something to lose your fleet's flagship to an enemy that doesn't have a functioning navy. Not quite as bad as when, in the 18th century, the Dutch navy had an entire fleet captured at sea by a French cavalry regiment, but pretty embarrassing nonetheless. Not as bad as losing the Vasa. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillonearth Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 Obviously we're unlikely to hear the true casualty figures anytime soon, but it's almost sounding like an HMS Hood vibe here: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 There are reports that 54 sailors from the Moskva were picked up by a Turkish vessel. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Khaki Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 Regardless of the rights and wrongs of what is going on, I hope as many of those poor buggers got out as possible. It's a horrible, horrible way to die. My absolute worst nightmare. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, Hillonearth said: Obviously we're unlikely to hear the true casualty figures anytime soon, but it's almost sounding like an HMS Hood vibe here: 14 Russian soldiers unable to cash in their bets at their local Willski Hillskis. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Steele Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 7 minutes ago, Melanius Mullarkay said: 14 Russian soldiers unable to cash in their bets at their local Willski Hillskis. Or Vladbrokes. 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 Russia should apply to join NATO to give it some protection from Ukraine. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSaints1877 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 15 minutes ago, Boo Khaki said: Regardless of the rights and wrongs of what is going on, I hope as many of those poor buggers got out as possible. It's a horrible, horrible way to die. My absolute worst nightmare. There have been far worse ways to die during this conflict. These guys signed up for duty. I can’t even begin to imagine how it must be to be a Ukrainian farmer who is tortured, then have to watch while your wife and daughters are raped and then killed in front of your eyes before being executed. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Cort's Hamstring Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 You wonder how long the Russian government can keep up the pretence that everything is going to plan when things like this happen. It must be the first sinking in the history of naval warfare where both sides have claimed responsiblity. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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