Russian invasion of Ukraine

[throbber]

1 minute ago, Theroadlesstravelled said:

Ukrainian 1 - "Ok Andrei, you lie in the street and I'll film you. It's part of George Soros's false flag operation."
Ukrainian 1 - "f**k sake, you scratched your belly just as I drove by. You're meant to be dead."
Ukrainian 2 - "Do you want to start again?"
Ukrainian 1 - "Nah it's good."

I love that you chose the name Andrei as it’s probably the only Ukrainian celebrity you can think of.

[Carl Cort's Hamstring]

We've already seen film footage of Russian soldiers opening fire on apartment blocks and civilian cars, shelling evacuation corridors and trying to murder a Sky News crew. It's not as if they've earned any benefit of the doubt

[DeeTillEhDeh]

You can't tell much from any videos. 
The better question with this incident is why the Russians left on Thursday, the mayor and media reported this on the Friday with no mention of executions then Ukranian military film these videos on the Saturday. 

You really are a fucking fruit loop.

[bendan]

3 minutes ago, Carl Cort's Hamstring said:

We've already seen film footage of Russian soldiers opening fire on apartment blocks and civilian cars, shelling evacuation corridors and trying to murder a Sky News crew. It's not as if they've earned any benefit of the doubt

We've literally seen them shoot dead civilians without hesitating (the guy who got out of the car raising his hands, and an old couple driving a car in the countryside, for example)

[Bairnardo]

I'm sure detournement thinks he's "just asking the difficult questions" or something

[Mark Connolly]

6 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

33 minutes ago, Detournement said:

You can't tell much from any videos. 
The better question with this incident is why the Russians left on Thursday, the mayor and media reported this on the Friday with no mention of executions then Ukranian military film these videos on the Saturday. 

You really are a fucking fruit loop.

Jet fuel doesn't melt Ukrainian neo-Nazis M8

[welshbairn]

I remember them coming up with 4 different and contradictory explanations for the shooting down of the Malaysian Airliner within a couple of days, each more fantastical than the one before. Never admit to anything is their motto, knowing that enough fuckwits will believe it if they keep repeating their denials. Any old shite they find on a conspiracy twitter feed will do.

P.S. 

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Boshirov said the two had gone to visit Salisbury Cathedral, “famous not just in Europe, but in the whole world. It’s famous for its 123-metre spire, it’s famous for its clock, the first one [of its kind] ever created in the world, which is still working.”

While they walked around Salisbury, he added, the two men “maybe approached Skripal’s house, but we didn’t know where it was located”

 

Edited April 4, 2022 by welshbairn

[Granny Danger]

20 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

47 minutes ago, Detournement said:

You can't tell much from any videos. 
The better question with this incident is why the Russians left on Thursday, the mayor and media reported this on the Friday with no mention of executions then Ukranian military film these videos on the Saturday. 

You really are a fucking fruit loop.

No he’s just an attention seeker and there’s too many folk on here who give him the attention he craves.

[Sweet Pete]

4 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

I remember them coming up with 4 different and contradictory explanations for the shooting down of the Malaysian Airliner within a couple of days, each more fantastical than the one before. Never admit to anything is their motto, knowing that enough fuckwits will believe it if they keep repeating their denials. Any old shite they find on a conspiracy twitter feed will do.

Correct. Halfwit losers with no brains and nothing of value in their lives, like Throbber and Detournement for example, will do all the heavy lifting for Russian lies. And that empowers them to keep doing whatever the f**k they want. Useful idiots, as one famous person from that neighbourhood once opined.

[ICTChris]

The Mayor posted on Facebook that March 31st was Bucha's day of liberation.  He posted that on April 1st at 6:39pm local time.  The implication is that it was confirmed that Bucha had been liberated the day before.  The official Bucha Facebook page, used by the mayor and local authority also posted on April 1st at 10:18am that the liberation was ongoing - the post also mentions corpses in the street.  Here is this post, it's a bit clunky as has been translated but gives a gist of what is being said.

From this you can see that the local authorities reclaimed the town on April 1st. 

The first videos showing bodies in the street were posted on Telegram at 7:52pm, around one hour after the mayor posted that Bucha had been liberated and in the same day that the local authority posted that the liberation was ongoing.  Subsequent videos followed that evening, local times.

If you imagine retaking a city, carefully checking for enemy troops or dangerous ordanance it would take time - it seems that the killings there occurred in a couple of places.  It would take a bit of time to find them or come across them.  Bucha has a similar population to Stirling - if Stirling was occupied by an army and 280 people were killed, it would take a while to find them, probably longer in Bucha as it is twice the area of Stirling.  There were also bodies of killed soldiers in the streets as well.

So the timeline of events doesn't match that there was an unnatural gap between the liberation of the town and the discovery of the dead bodies.  Of course, if they had been found immediately the Russian government and their supporters would say that was suspicious.  I don't know the optimum time to discover a massacre site in a medium sized town. 

[Melanius Mullarkey]

I’m sure George Galloway will keep us right.

[Jacksgranda]

7 minutes ago, ICTChris said:

The Mayor posted on Facebook that March 31st was Bucha's day of liberation.  He posted that on April 1st at 6:39pm local time.  The implication is that it was confirmed that Bucha had been liberated the day before.  The official Bucha Facebook page, used by the mayor and local authority also posted on April 1st at 10:18am that the liberation was ongoing - the post also mentions corpses in the street.  Here is this post, it's a bit clunky as has been translated but gives a gist of what is being said.

From this you can see that the local authorities reclaimed the town on April 1st. 

The first videos showing bodies in the street were posted on Telegram at 7:52pm, around one hour after the mayor posted that Bucha had been liberated and in the same day that the local authority posted that the liberation was ongoing.  Subsequent videos followed that evening, local times.

If you imagine retaking a city, carefully checking for enemy troops or dangerous ordanance it would take time - it seems that the killings there occurred in a couple of places.  It would take a bit of time to find them or come across them.  Bucha has a similar population to Stirling - if Stirling was occupied by an army and 280 people were killed, it would take a while to find them, probably longer in Bucha as it is twice the area of Stirling.  There were also bodies of killed soldiers in the streets as well.

So the timeline of events doesn't match that there was an unnatural gap between the liberation of the town and the discovery of the dead bodies.  Of course, if they had been found immediately the Russian government and their supporters would say that was suspicious.  I don't know the optimum time to discover a massacre site in a medium sized town. 

Somewhere between immediately and the next day, obviously.

[VincentGuerin]

1 hour ago, Detournement said:

You can't tell much from any videos. 

The better question with this incident is why the Russians left on Thursday, the mayor and media reported this on the Friday with no mention of executions then Ukranian military film these videos on the Saturday. 

Absolutely credulous buffoons like you are exactly who oppressive and murderous regimes around the world rely on to b*****dise public discourse.

[Hillonearth]

29 minutes ago, ICTChris said:

The Mayor posted on Facebook that March 31st was Bucha's day of liberation.  He posted that on April 1st at 6:39pm local time.  The implication is that it was confirmed that Bucha had been liberated the day before.  The official Bucha Facebook page, used by the mayor and local authority also posted on April 1st at 10:18am that the liberation was ongoing - the post also mentions corpses in the street.  Here is this post, it's a bit clunky as has been translated but gives a gist of what is being said.

From this you can see that the local authorities reclaimed the town on April 1st. 

The first videos showing bodies in the street were posted on Telegram at 7:52pm, around one hour after the mayor posted that Bucha had been liberated and in the same day that the local authority posted that the liberation was ongoing.  Subsequent videos followed that evening, local times.

If you imagine retaking a city, carefully checking for enemy troops or dangerous ordanance it would take time - it seems that the killings there occurred in a couple of places.  It would take a bit of time to find them or come across them.  Bucha has a similar population to Stirling - if Stirling was occupied by an army and 280 people were killed, it would take a while to find them, probably longer in Bucha as it is twice the area of Stirling.  There were also bodies of killed soldiers in the streets as well.

So the timeline of events doesn't match that there was an unnatural gap between the liberation of the town and the discovery of the dead bodies.  Of course, if they had been found immediately the Russian government and their supporters would say that was suspicious.  I don't know the optimum time to discover a massacre site in a medium sized town. 

Exactly - the Russians are hardly going to leave them signs saying "To the massacre site" and "Mass graves this way", are they? Bear in mind also the distinct possibility of stay-behind snipers and booby traps, and it could easily take them some time to find out what had really gone down.

 

[Sweet Pete]

The "do your own research" brigade have ruined every single news event. Ironically, it was the Russians in the wake of the JFK assassination who spread lots of fake conspiracy theories to destabilise the US and started the whole modern popular conspiracy theory nonsense. To this day, a huge amount of the disinformation that one comes across online originates from Russian bots and troll farms aiming to destabilise the West, sow voter apathy, drive fringe voters towards the goals of their paymasters (Brexit i.e) etc.

[dorlomin]

2 hours ago, jagfox said:

 

 

Its from Come and See a film about how the Nazi invasion of Belarus broke a young boy. 

[Hillonearth]

1 minute ago, dorlomin said:

 

Its from Come and See a film about how the Nazi invasion of Belarus broke a young boy. 

Saw that years ago - it's pretty harrowing. I'd initially heard that acting in it had actually turned the kid star's hair grey in the space of a month or so - he was 14 - but it turned out it was just sprayed with silver.

[101]

10 minutes ago, dorlomin said:

 

Its from Come and See a film about how the Nazi invasion of Belarus broke a young boy. 

What's Willie Rennie doing in Belarus?

[Mark Connolly]

10 minutes ago, dorlomin said:

 

Its from Come and See a film about how the Nazi invasion of Belarus broke a young boy. 

Fair play to Willie Rennie, didn't think he had it in him

[BFTD]

Just now, 101 said:

What's Willie Rennie doing in Belarus?

Photo op with a massive, oversized pile of corpses?