Theroadlesstravelled Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 The Ukraine denazification is up there with George Bush's weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. You need to be absolute simpleton to believe it. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 15 minutes ago, itzdrk said: This was his take yesterday, definitely gonna be on his mind but he's got his no goes out there. I think that was in the context of talking about Kiev, Kharkov and Mariupol, not necessarily Crimea, Donetsk and Luhansk. Letting them go would be part of a final deal, he's not going to give them up while Russia are bombing Odessa from ships in the Black Sea. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falkirkthebigclub Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 If & when the Russians reach the Romanian/Hungarian/Slovakian/Polish borders, does that mean we get to blame Russia for not respecting NATO/failing to understand NATO/threatening NATO? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, badgerthewitness said: If & when the Russians reach the Romanian/Hungarian/Slovakian/Polish borders, does that mean we get to blame Russia for not respecting NATO/failing to understand NATO/threatening NATO? Ideally they stop before this and we would have less war rather than more 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 13 minutes ago, itzdrk said: The VDV are just for show. Possibly - I read the thread on that subject and they have done some questionable things in the war. Despite that they are well trained and well equipped and then taking heavy casualties will have an impact on the war, or at least Russian battle plans. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budmiester1 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 5 hours ago, renton said: No, using airborne forces to capture an airport only make sense if the intention is to to link them up rapidly with heavy ground forces... airborne forces have amazing strategic mobility (I.e. the ability to be moved rapidly into theatre and landed in a given location) but basically zero tactical mobility (lack of vehicles) and any heavy weaponry. Therefore they can be used as shock troops or as a coup de main to capture significant objectives deep inside the enemy controlled territory, but require relief quickly or they will be subjected to defeat in detail by the defender's fire power which will quickly over match them. Hence, unless they deliberately sent their paratroops into a death trap for shits and giggles, it is logical that the Russian intention was for their ground forces advancing out of Belarus to have covered the ground between them and the airbase in 12 to 24 hours. I would say you are correct in this, you only have to look back at Operation Market Garden to see how easily it can go wrong. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red23 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 5 hours ago, Detournement said: Ok how do we get price controls on our energy bills? Bet all the folk that put hot tubs in their garden are thinking twice. Would cost about £150 a month to run now 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 21 minutes ago, badgerthewitness said: If & when the Russians reach the Romanian/Hungarian/Slovakian/Polish borders, does that mean we get to blame Russia for not respecting NATO/failing to understand NATO/threatening NATO? At the rate they're going and the losses they've incurred, it's a good 20 years before we have to worry about that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 35 minutes ago, ICTChris said: Possibly - I read the thread on that subject and they have done some questionable things in the war. Despite that they are well trained and well equipped and then taking heavy casualties will have an impact on the war, or at least Russian battle plans. A very interesting topic, we probably will learn more about the perception v reality of them post war. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandcowden Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 47 minutes ago, ICTChris said: Possibly - I read the thread on that subject and they have done some questionable things in the war. Despite that they are well trained and well equipped and then taking heavy casualties will have an impact on the war, or at least Russian battle plans. A great loss to the human race, unfortunate for them to run into people who weren't afraid to fight back unlike the civvies they were used to pushing about 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 If & when the Russians reach the Romanian/Hungarian/Slovakian/Polish borders, does that mean we get to blame Russia for not respecting NATO/failing to understand NATO/threatening NATO?That's not happening. Their "mighty" military has shown up as a tinpot joke on the world stage. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Putin rn- 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 The Russian paper that printed the 10,000 KIA figure have said they were hacked. Sounds legit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 If history teaches us anything, it's that a political officer called "Putin" will be killed off by a respectable submarine captain. Oh, no, wait... that was just a film. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8MileBU Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 On 20/03/2022 at 11:20, Moomintroll said: What is your opinion on the matter then @Marshmallo Nobody cares. Don’t try coax it out of him. On 20/03/2022 at 14:46, throbber said: He’s basically acting like Putin and making a c**t of himself. FTFY On 20/03/2022 at 17:12, Marshmallo said: He's my flatmate, so had shown him your DM at the time when we were watching the football in the living room. RIP Bonksy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Wilkos Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 The Russian paper that printed the 10,000 KIA figure have said they were hacked. Sounds legit.It can happen. I remember when Big Ian "Beefy" Botham's Twitter was hacked just before a picture of his deformed chode was posted to the account. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 (edited) Jeremy Corbyn like this. Edited March 22, 2022 by Theroadlesstravelled 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arabdownunder Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Theroadlesstravelled said: Jeremy Corbyn like this. tbf We've seen in the last couple of years that's a pretty standard public response to any government advice not to panic buy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 Add anti-vaxxers to Putin’s bitches. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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