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steve55 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 On 08/03/2022 at 17:00, welshbairn said: https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/03/02/ukraine-biolabs-conspiracy-theory-qanon/ This is from 2018 about Pentagon biolabs all over Ukraine and Georgia: Here is link, it is in English despite Arabic title: -7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 gypsies.mp4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweeperDee Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 This is from 2018 about Pentagon biolabs all over Ukraine and Georgia: Here is link, it is in English despite Arabic title: Looks like it was made in Windows Movie Maker. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 I find it quite comforting to think that one of the world's most feared armed forces would turn out to be a bit shit. Hopefully the Americans are just as poor in the field.American forces in previous conflicts had a habit of killing soldiers on their own side. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 You do realise that the Nazis are in Ukraine. Surely you aint that stupid? The only stupid one is you, you fucking thick Putinist apologist.The "Ukrainians are Nazis" line is pish of first degree.For a country whose leader is of Jewish descent they are doing an awful shite job of it.Equating the Azov brigade with Ukrainians as a whole is like using Combat 18 as being representative of the UK population or Siol nan Gàidheal being representative of the Scottish nationalist movement.It's utter nonsense. 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lofarl Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 Those Azov boys don’t half get stuck in to defend their city. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moomintroll Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 26 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: The only stupid one is you, you fucking thick Putinist apologist. The "Ukrainians are Nazis" line is pish of first degree. For a country whose leader is of Jewish descent they are doing an awful shite job of it. Equating the Azov brigade with Ukrainians as a whole is like using Combat 18 as being representative of the UK population or Siol nan Gàidheal being representative of the Scottish nationalist movement. It's utter nonsense. Why is that arsehole still getting free reign to spread his fucking poison on here? He makes H_B seem quite reasonable in comparison. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweeperDee Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 Well that's RT.com gone now I guess? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 40 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: The only stupid one is you, you fucking thick Putinist apologist. The "Ukrainians are Nazis" line is pish of first degree. For a country whose leader is of Jewish descent they are doing an awful shite job of it. Equating the Azov brigade with Ukrainians as a whole is like using Combat 18 as being representative of the UK population or Siol nan Gàidheal being representative of the Scottish nationalist movement. It's utter nonsense. The Azov battalion and Zelenskyy are funded by the same oligarch, Kolomoisky. Fascism always begins as a weapon of capitalists. An Azov battalion commander was awarded hero of the nation status this week and we have seen photographs of NeoNazi combat units with NATO supplied weapons systems even before the invasion. Neonazism in Ukraine is undeniably different to the far right in any other European country. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarapoa Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 There are a lot of very right-wing groups all over Eastern Europe, many who would class themselves as neo-nazis.Ukraine has them, Russia has them, they are abundant in Hungary - trying doing a Legia Warsaw match and you’ll see plenty.It’s strange given what the Nazis did in Eastern Europe 70 years ago, but possibly a consequence of adapting to the freedoms these countries have enjoyed since the wall came down.I recall fairly indiscriminate attacks on Scotland fans in Kyiv in 2006, but it was a particular group of people responsible and hardly a representation of the whole country. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonytoons Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 If Ukraine survives the invasion it will unfortunately be populated by armed-to-the-teeth groups all with different agendas.It almost certainly won't return to anything remotely close to what it was pre-invasion. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 8 minutes ago, tarapoa said: There are a lot of very right-wing groups all over Eastern Europe, many who would class themselves as neo-nazis. Ukraine has them, Russia has them, they are abundant in Hungary - trying doing a Legia Warsaw match and you’ll see plenty. It’s strange given what the Nazis did in Eastern Europe 70 years ago, but possibly a consequence of adapting to the freedoms these countries have enjoyed since the wall came down. I recall fairly indiscriminate attacks on Scotland fans in Kyiv in 2006, but it was a particular group of people responsible and hardly a representation of the whole country. They had maybe 3 years of being bossed around by the Germans and 45 by the Soviets. Very different folk memories to us. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, welshbairn said: They had maybe 3 years of being bossed around by the Germans and 45 by the Soviets. Very different folk memories to us. "Bossed around". Fucking hell. Edited March 20, 2022 by Detournement 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 The Azov battalion and Zelenskyy are funded by the same oligarch, Kolomoisky. Fascism always begins as a weapon of capitalists. An Azov battalion commander was awarded hero of the nation status this week and we have seen photographs of NeoNazi combat units with NATO supplied weapons systems even before the invasion. Neonazism in Ukraine is undeniably different to the far right in any other European country. No-one is denying that there are elements within the Ukrainian forces that are neo-Nazi but it's fucking tinfoil hat stuff to extend that to the whole of Ukraine.It's absolutely lazy analysis.Demonising Ukrainians (or Russians for that matter) does no-one any favours. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moomintroll Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 7 minutes ago, Detournement said: The Azov battalion and Zelenskyy are funded by the same oligarch, Kolomoisky. Fascism always begins as a weapon of capitalists. An Azov battalion commander was awarded hero of the nation status this week and we have seen photographs of NeoNazi combat units with NATO supplied weapons systems even before the invasion. Neonazism in Ukraine is undeniably different to the far right in any other European country. You are beyond parody, Eastern Europe has a severe issue with Fascism and Racism, Ukraine is no better or worse with its problems but your desperation to blame the West for absolutely everything blinds you to the obvious fact that Putin is a wrong un. I say this as someone who acknowledges that the issues in the Middle East are completely caused by us due to the Sykes Picot agreement & the Balfour Declaration, Ibn Saud & the Wahhabists would never have gained primacy if we didn't betray Sharif Hussein. What Putin is doing now is every bit as bad as what the European powers were doing back then & no amount of tinfoil hat wearing or wild conspiracy theories is going to alter that fact. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 3 hours ago, steve55 said: This is from 2018 about Pentagon biolabs all over Ukraine and Georgia: Here is link, it is in English despite Arabic title: "Where should we hide our top secret bio labs Buddy? Put them all in the country most likely to be invaded by our direct enemy. They'll never look there. Brilliant, do it. God bless America." 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moomintroll Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 What is your opinion on the matter then @Marshmallo, or would you rather just remain the vile bullying, manipulative coward that you clearly are. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 10 minutes ago, Detournement said: "Bossed around". Fucking hell. Would you prefer "being shipped to the Gulags"? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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