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1 hour ago, dirty dingus said:

Yeah i seen that, they're kinda fucked if they jail her now as she'll become a martyr for the anti war movement. 

Putin likes his revenge served cold, preferably with clues directed straight back to him, but deniable. You can only hope she isn't high on his priorities.

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14 hours ago, steve55 said:

In Russia, Putin rules the oligarchs.

In China, Xi rules the oligarchs.

In the West, the oligarchs rule the President.

 

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This could be the most impressively stupid post over the last 336 pages. 

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Question: was Ukraine mistreating Russians in Eastern Ukraine prior to invasion? 

Given the way the Russian-speaking Ukrainians have reacted to their “liberators”, I suspect that one has been overplayed a tad.

Donetsk and Lugansk are post-industrial cowps anyway, and if they are to be the sacrifice so everyone walks away from this by saving face, then maybe that’s the way it needs to be.
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14 minutes ago, tarapoa said:


Given the way the Russian-speaking Ukrainians have reacted to their “liberators”, I suspect that one has been overplayed a tad.

Donetsk and Lugansk are post-industrial cowps anyway, and if they are to be the sacrifice so everyone walks away from this by saving face, then maybe that’s the way it needs to be.

Was that a yes or a no?

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1 hour ago, Thorongil said:

Question: was Ukraine mistreating Russians in Eastern Ukraine prior to invasion? 

Are you talking about the 2014 invasion or 2022? Before 2014 East Ukrainians were ruling the country, so no. After Russia pretty well controlled Eastern Ukraine, so again no, apart from the fact of shells and bullets flying one side to the other and the odd Russian missile shooting down a civilian airliner. Russia talks about the death toll between 2014 and 2022 as being only on their side of the boundary, not so, although I suppose every civilian killed on both sides was Eastern Ukrainian, be it by a Russian or Ukrainian bomb.

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Tony Blair.

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It is no coincidence that the two most prominent UK voices attempting to pin responsibility on NATO for Putin’s aggression were Farage and Corbyn. Fifteen years ago, both were fringe figures. But after that time Farage managed to turn the Conservative Party into a Brexit party, and the far left under Corbyn took control of Labour.

https://institute.global/tony-blair/immediate-challenge-ukraine-maximum-pressure-combined-structured-negotiation

Jeremy Corbyn.

 

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