Vimto90 Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 People need to educate themselves here and understand properly the context of this whole situation. Several points . The last thing Putin is, is crazy or dumb. He is a master strategist and must be taken very seriously. Over 14000 people have been killed in eastern Ukraine, the vast majority have been ethnic Russians, who have been bombed by the Ukrainians and terrorised by the local Nazi azov battalion. The American puppet Ukrainian president has allowed this even actively trying to put in place one of the leader of the azov battalion as a defence minister. Said individual as it happens leaded a group who burned down a union hall in eastern Ukraine full of ethnic Russians killing many. The Ukraine have went against both Minsk agreements one where they would remain neutral and not allow NATO and its weapons and military to push onto Russian border and threaten Russian national security and secondly where they would agree to ceasing military action against ethnic Russians and allow them to vote on having greater autonomy. The Americans have been funding the Ukrainians and azov battalion after they instigated a coup in 2014 to oust the pro Russian president . Any Russian leader or any world leader of a powerful nation would need to act in such conditions as unfortunate as such action will be , NATO after all were founded as a anti Russian alliance .For years this has been building up against the Russian federation. Btw the current Ukrainian president imprisoned opposition political leader and opposition newspaper editors. America would retaliate even harsher if for example China Russia and India infiltrated Mexico to establish military presence, trained its army, supplied weapons and pointed missiles that could reach American cities. Ukraine has a large percentage of population ethnic Russians, large population speak Russian, they should be forging close ties with Russia as Slavic brothers not allowing themselves to be corrupt puppets of the west in particular America. Of course the vast majority of the population like with covid are brainwashed into believing what the media want them to believe rather than take time to do own rather basic research. Nice to see you have not banned PnB in Russia Vlad 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONTROOPER Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Andre Bo said: This is fucking appalling. Indeed. As I said to a friend this afternoon discussing this he said....exactly what you did. However...appalling in our sense of the word has no connection whatsoever with Putin. He has to go to save Russia/Ukraine/Europe ......and I care not by which means he is dispatched. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 I'm not sure Mr Putin would think you're helping much to be honest @Firefoxer. Or is it Giovanni di Stefano? On 03/02/2022 at 07:09, Firefoxer said: Have some back bone raith rovers! And sign the guy and play him! The case he was involved in was years ago and a overall flimsy case , no criminal charges were made and frankly he has every right to earn a living at his chosen job. All this garbage about footballers being role models is ridiculous. Goodwillie is an innocent man as our justice system proved. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONTROOPER Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, Vimto90 said: 17 minutes ago, Firefoxer said: People need to educate themselves here and understand properly the context of this whole situation. Several points . The last thing Putin is, is crazy or dumb. He is a master strategist and must be taken very seriously. Over 14000 people have been killed in eastern Ukraine, the vast majority have been ethnic Russians, who have been bombed by the Ukrainians and terrorised by the local Nazi azov battalion. The American puppet Ukrainian president has allowed this even actively trying to put in place one of the leader of the azov battalion as a defence minister. Said individual as it happens leaded a group who burned down a union hall in eastern Ukraine full of ethnic Russians killing many. The Ukraine have went against both Minsk agreements one where they would remain neutral and not allow NATO and its weapons and military to push onto Russian border and threaten Russian national security and secondly where they would agree to ceasing military action against ethnic Russians and allow them to vote on having greater autonomy. The Americans have been funding the Ukrainians and azov battalion after they instigated a coup in 2014 to oust the pro Russian president . Any Russian leader or any world leader of a powerful nation would need to act in such conditions as unfortunate as such action will be , NATO after all were founded as a anti Russian alliance .For years this has been building up against the Russian federation. Btw the current Ukrainian president imprisoned opposition political leader and opposition newspaper editors. America would retaliate even harsher if for example China Russia and India infiltrated Mexico to establish military presence, trained its army, supplied weapons and pointed missiles that could reach American cities. Ukraine has a large percentage of population ethnic Russians, large population speak Russian, they should be forging close ties with Russia as Slavic brothers not allowing themselves to be corrupt puppets of the west in particular America. Of course the vast majority of the population like with covid are brainwashed into believing what the media want them to believe rather than take time to do own rather basic research. Nice to see you have not banned PnB in Russia Vlad Young Vimto....dont dare patronise me.....I witnessed the Cuban crisis (I WAS 8). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONTROOPER Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 11 minutes ago, Vimto90 said: 21 minutes ago, Firefoxer said: People need to educate themselves here and understand properly the context of this whole situation. Several points . The last thing Putin is, is crazy or dumb. He is a master strategist and must be taken very seriously. Over 14000 people have been killed in eastern Ukraine, the vast majority have been ethnic Russians, who have been bombed by the Ukrainians and terrorised by the local Nazi azov battalion. The American puppet Ukrainian president has allowed this even actively trying to put in place one of the leader of the azov battalion as a defence minister. Said individual as it happens leaded a group who burned down a union hall in eastern Ukraine full of ethnic Russians killing many. The Ukraine have went against both Minsk agreements one where they would remain neutral and not allow NATO and its weapons and military to push onto Russian border and threaten Russian national security and secondly where they would agree to ceasing military action against ethnic Russians and allow them to vote on having greater autonomy. The Americans have been funding the Ukrainians and azov battalion after they instigated a coup in 2014 to oust the pro Russian president . Any Russian leader or any world leader of a powerful nation would need to act in such conditions as unfortunate as such action will be , NATO after all were founded as a anti Russian alliance .For years this has been building up against the Russian federation. Btw the current Ukrainian president imprisoned opposition political leader and opposition newspaper editors. America would retaliate even harsher if for example China Russia and India infiltrated Mexico to establish military presence, trained its army, supplied weapons and pointed missiles that could reach American cities. Ukraine has a large percentage of population ethnic Russians, large population speak Russian, they should be forging close ties with Russia as Slavic brothers not allowing themselves to be corrupt puppets of the west in particular America. Of course the vast majority of the population like with covid are brainwashed into believing what the media want them to believe rather than take time to do own rather basic research. Nice to see you have not banned PnB in Russia Vlad 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TONTROOPER Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, Detective Jimmy McNulty said: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONTROOPER Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, Detective Jimmy McNulty said: If I was Zelenskii....I would be doing the same.....thank god I'm not. Harshly ...I agree noy yo provide a 'no fly zonw.....for reasons which will become later.....admittedly...after many Ukranians have died.Putin probably hopes at this point we will start blaming each other for not being quick rnough to 'read the room'. Oh well...this is the way I read it.........Putin will continue until his internal coterie of Generals say......."yer sacked Vlad......yer killing your own people 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vimto90 Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 I'm not sure Mr Putin would think you're helping much to be honest [mention=82056]Firefoxer[/mention]. Or is it Giovanni di Stefano? He was on the Kelty thread earlier making a tit of himself as well. A pattern is evolving. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_&_T Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 I'm half way through this documentary by Oliver Stone: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONTROOPER Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, Vimto90 said: 27 minutes ago, welshbairn said: I'm not sure Mr Putin would think you're helping much to be honest [mention=82056]Firefoxer[/mention]. Or is it Giovanni di Stefano? He was on the Kelty thread earlier making a tit of himself as well. A pattern is evolving. Oh come on Vimto...you can do better than that......stick yer heid o'er the parapett.....and be bloody grateful you arent in Ukrainr. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vimto90 Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 Oh come on Vimto...you can do better than that......stick yer heid o'er the parapett.....and be bloody grateful you arent in Ukrainr. You have had a few too many clearly. Best stay aff PnB till you sober up fella 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONTROOPER Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, Vimto90 said: 6 minutes ago, TONTROOPER said: Oh come on Vimto...you can do better than that......stick yer heid o'er the parapett.....and be bloody grateful you arent in Ukrainr. You have had a few too many clearly. Best stay aff PnB till you sober up fella On the contrary my good man....you seem to be doing 'a Boris'....i.e. looking for a fridge. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONTROOPER Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, Vimto90 said: 9 minutes ago, TONTROOPER said: Oh come on Vimto...you can do better than that......stick yer heid o'er the parapett.....and be bloody grateful you arent in Ukrainr. You have had a few too many clearly. Best stay aff PnB till you sober up fella looks like all the fizz has gone oot Vimtos bottle (if he ever had one). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Amp Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 2 hours ago, Firefoxer said: People need to educate themselves here and understand properly the context of this whole situation. Several points . The last thing Putin is, is crazy or dumb. He is a master strategist and must be taken very seriously. Over 14000 people have been killed in eastern Ukraine, the vast majority have been ethnic Russians, who have been bombed by the Ukrainians and terrorised by the local Nazi azov battalion. The American puppet Ukrainian president has allowed this even actively trying to put in place one of the leader of the azov battalion as a defence minister. Said individual as it happens leaded a group who burned down a union hall in eastern Ukraine full of ethnic Russians killing many. The Ukraine have went against both Minsk agreements one where they would remain neutral and not allow NATO and its weapons and military to push onto Russian border and threaten Russian national security and secondly where they would agree to ceasing military action against ethnic Russians and allow them to vote on having greater autonomy. The Americans have been funding the Ukrainians and azov battalion after they instigated a coup in 2014 to oust the pro Russian president . Any Russian leader or any world leader of a powerful nation would need to act in such conditions as unfortunate as such action will be , NATO after all were founded as a anti Russian alliance .For years this has been building up against the Russian federation. Btw the current Ukrainian president imprisoned opposition political leader and opposition newspaper editors. America would retaliate even harsher if for example China Russia and India infiltrated Mexico to establish military presence, trained its army, supplied weapons and pointed missiles that could reach American cities. Ukraine has a large percentage of population ethnic Russians, large population speak Russian, they should be forging close ties with Russia as Slavic brothers not allowing themselves to be corrupt puppets of the west in particular America. Of course the vast majority of the population like with covid are brainwashed into believing what the media want them to believe rather than take time to do own rather basic research. What's your view on the role RNU and, particularly, Girkin played in setting the context for current events? I assume even rather basic research will have given you some insights. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 2 hours ago, Firefoxer said: People need to educate themselves here and understand properly the context of this whole situation. Several points . The last thing Putin is, is crazy or dumb. He is a master strategist and must be taken very seriously. Over 14000 people have been killed in eastern Ukraine, the vast majority have been ethnic Russians, who have been bombed by the Ukrainians and terrorised by the local Nazi azov battalion. The American puppet Ukrainian president has allowed this even actively trying to put in place one of the leader of the azov battalion as a defence minister. Said individual as it happens leaded a group who burned down a union hall in eastern Ukraine full of ethnic Russians killing many. The Ukraine have went against both Minsk agreements one where they would remain neutral and not allow NATO and its weapons and military to push onto Russian border and threaten Russian national security and secondly where they would agree to ceasing military action against ethnic Russians and allow them to vote on having greater autonomy. The Americans have been funding the Ukrainians and azov battalion after they instigated a coup in 2014 to oust the pro Russian president . Any Russian leader or any world leader of a powerful nation would need to act in such conditions as unfortunate as such action will be , NATO after all were founded as a anti Russian alliance .For years this has been building up against the Russian federation. Btw the current Ukrainian president imprisoned opposition political leader and opposition newspaper editors. America would retaliate even harsher if for example China Russia and India infiltrated Mexico to establish military presence, trained its army, supplied weapons and pointed missiles that could reach American cities. Ukraine has a large percentage of population ethnic Russians, large population speak Russian, they should be forging close ties with Russia as Slavic brothers not allowing themselves to be corrupt puppets of the west in particular America. Of course the vast majority of the population like with covid are brainwashed into believing what the media want them to believe rather than take time to do own rather basic research. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven W Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 NATO are going to have to be strong on the no fly zone. Zelensky putting more pressure on again over night. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 7 hours ago, oaksoft said: What? Welshy is talking about rationing food. You want permanent rations? You actually want to be told what you can and can't eat and how much you can have of each item? Whilst knowing from experience that those who set those rations will not be subjecting themselves to them? Fair enough. Not sure how popular that philosophy is going to be though. Nice try capitalist. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throbber Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 7 hours ago, Andre Bo said: This is fucking appalling. I enjoyed it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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