AW saint Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Strange game last night. First half we started well then fell out of it due to slack play. St Johnstone then get a stonewaller only for the ref to give us a dodgy spot kick. The second half we bossed it. Dunne has to retain his place at least for now and we have finally found a striker with pace who knows his way to goal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torfason Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 1 hour ago, AW saint said: St Johnstone then get a stonewaller only for the ref to give us a dodgy spot kick. The St Johnstone penalty was an interesting one, both players were pulling each other's shirts but the attacker was smart enough to let go when he got into the box and went down. The St Mirren one was the St Johnstone defender getting all over Greive and forcing him to ground. Neither would cause someone to fall down in the street but both are still penalties. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergie's no1 fan Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 On 10/02/2022 at 07:59, RandomGuy. said: Don't worry, your boy above hates our HOR and regularly posts as if hes blaming this all on him. HOR is a Saints fan and some people just seem really bitter about it for some reason. Our issues weren't this window, where we had to virtually rebuild our squad, our issue has been the previous 2/3 windows. January is a shit window for clubs needing to sign folk as you're looking at gambles rather than decent players, but the club had no choice, the squad we had wasn't rescuing us. Before January we literally didn't sign a single player to come in and improve the starting line for more than a season since Tommy Wright signed McCart and Rooney in January 2020. Club, and manager, got arrogant thinking we could just stand still for a year and still survive, and are now paying the price for that. Frankly they deserve relegation. Oh aye you guys had to roll the dice this window but the damage was done previously. Was Callum too loyal to guys that have served StJohnstone well over your golden period? Relying on guys like Craig and Davidson to dig you out a hole year in year out. Worth remembering yous have some very sticky patches under Tommy but always managed to turn it around. Did he realise you were going to come unstuck eventually and kicked up a stink because he wasn't given funds to rebuild the squad? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Heliums Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 43 minutes ago, sergie's no1 fan said: Did he realise you were going to come unstuck eventually and kicked up a stink because he wasn't given funds to rebuild the squad? My guess is that he was bored with the grind of keeping Saints competitive and knew sooner or later it would go sour. And he probably thought he'd done enough to attract interest elsewhere, but he was overlooked for the N Ireland job that he wanted, and it just didn't click at Killie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 4 hours ago, sergie's no1 fan said: Was Callum too loyal to guys that have served StJohnstone well over your golden period? Relying on guys like Craig and Davidson to dig you out a hole year in year out. A mix of that and him being a rookie and not fully understanding how to build a squad, I think. Last season he took control of a settled, well built, squad where everyone important was pretty much tied down longish term and we went the season without major injuries. I think he maybe started to think having a small core of reliable players topped up with cheap short termers and youth punts would work forever, whereas you really need to constantly keep evolving the first team and making sure you're ahead of the contract situation. We didn't sign anyone to come into the first team long term until he gave Charlie Gilmour a long deal in May last year, then in the Summer window it was only James Brown and Eetu Vertainen. Not one has earned a first team spot or shown anything to suggest they'll ever be long term starters under him. So thats 18 months and 3 windows where we literally did nothing squad wise. I don't think he'll make that mistake again but f**k knows. Quote Worth remembering yous have some very sticky patches under Tommy but always managed to turn it around. Did he realise you were going to come unstuck eventually and kicked up a stink because he wasn't given funds to rebuild the squad? I think he was desperate for the NI job. Felt like, when O'Neill signed for Stoke and it became obvious he'd be gone from the NI post by the end of the season, TW decided he wanted out as he was more likely to get the job if he was free. He got no help behind the scenes I don't think so its hard to blame him if he did just get tired of it, but he got plenty of money to spend, he just wasted most of it on players who didn't end up justifying it. He left the squad in a great shape regardless though, even if he was frustrated and wanted out. The 2yr deals for McCart and Rooney he left us with were great deals in hindsight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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