'Well vs Hibees

[fat_tony]

The boos were as much in support of the player as they were against the decision.

I think you give some of our support too much credit...

Hibs insisting on playing it out from the keeper while clearly not having the players to do so has a strong Jim Gannon energy about it.

I was also impressed with the amount of times Doig managed to blooter the ball out the park with his second touch.

A point each was probably the fair outcome given nobody really did much in the game. I'll definitely take it after Donnelly's daft sending off.

[Desp]

Van Veen missed a sitter in the first half, then Hibs had a couple of crosses across the face of goal in the second half. That was about it, wasn't it? I don't recall either 'keeper having a serious save to make. 

A shite game in shite weather. Take a point each and say no more about it. My Bovril was decent, tbf. 

[Leith Green]

2 minutes ago, fat_tony said:

I was also impressed with the amount of times Doig managed to blooter the ball out the park with his second touch

 

[Lyle Lanley]

Shaun is just trolling us here surely  

[tonicg]

Can't believe I even started watching that Maloney interview. Turned it off as soon as he said "we created more than enough chances to win the game"

Never heard anyone come out with that sort of stuff when their team never even tested the opposition's keeper. 

[ropy]

10 minutes ago, Lyle Lanley said:

Shaun is just trolling us here surely  

4 chances is enough to win a game but only if at least one of them is on target, he did get the weather correct and he is very neatly turned out, so well done

[Leith Green]

11 minutes ago, Lyle Lanley said:

Shaun is just trolling us here surely  

He cant come out and say "as soon as I have the guys I want in place some of the dross (Wright, Campbell) will be out the door or on the subs bench"

But thats what he will be thinking..................I hope !

[Swello]

If the opening day was one of the best games of the season, that was the worst but the weather was the main thing that killed it. I thought in terms of dogged determination to fight for everything, we did all that could be asked but we never really threatened and this game won't ever be mentioned again.

I thought Donnelly was daft going in for the 2nd challenge - not sure what GA got himself sent off for TBH.

A reddie from @YassinMoutaouakil heading my way but I thought that corrupt transfer dealing specialist Chris Cadden was Hibs best player  - although I thought it was quite mad that on a honking winter night, they continued to attempt to play country club soccer when it obvious after 5 mins that it wasn't the night for passing it about - that was the least any team have created against us this season.

We haven't lost any ground on this round of fixtures and even gained a point on Aberdeen and Hearts, so more or less acceptable...

 

[Yorky]

7 hours ago, Swello said:

If the opening day was one of the best games of the season, that was the worst but the weather was the main thing that killed it. I thought in terms of dogged determination to fight for everything, we did all that could be asked but we never really threatened and this game won't ever be mentioned again.

I thought Donnelly was daft going in for the 2nd challenge - not sure what GA got himself sent off for TBH.

A reddie from @YassinMoutaouakil heading my way but I thought that corrupt transfer dealing specialist Chris Cadden was Hibs best player  - although I thought it was quite mad that on a honking winter night, they continued to attempt to play country club soccer when it obvious after 5 mins that it wasn't the night for passing it about - that was the least any team have created against us this season.

We haven't lost any ground on this round of fixtures and even gained a point on Aberdeen and Hearts, so more or less acceptable...

 

I was never a fan of Cadden’s and nothings changed for me, I just don’t think he brings enough. A poor game effected by the weather but both team look nothing special at the moment. We certainly need another striker to replace Watt, Donnelly deserved to be sent off, Goss just continues to get better and better. The big guy for Hibs was funny with his amazing ability to look like he needed and ambulance then 30 seconds later be running around like a gazelle, sadly just another example of modern footballers theatrics, more interested in trying to get an opposition player sent off than just getting on with it, not something I’m a fan of.

[ropy]

Two teams that have lost their main man and are trying to adjust to the change.  

[Dons_1988]

On 25/01/2022 at 13:25, Dons_1988 said:

Draw

On 25/01/2022 at 13:45, Leith Green said:

Posting the result that you want doesnt always work..................

On 25/01/2022 at 14:10, Swello said:

My St Mirren - Dons prediction right there...

we’re having a god awful so let me have my moment…

 

 

[Archie McSquackle]

The strange I thought about Cadden was that he would run well when he had space to attack but never really took anyone on. There were a few times it was Goss that came across to close him down and all he had to do was knock it by him and he'd have been away.

[Allroy for Prez]

I thought Cadden was good. Quite a few wee daft touches and flicks I can’t remember him ever having with us.

The weather ruined it as a contest so it’s probably best we take the point and move on.

I thought for all the defence seemed pretty cobbled together they still restricted Hibs to nothing. I’m never going to be sold on O’Donnell or McGinley so he’s full backs in the summer please.

The balance of our midfield is all wrong and I can’t understand why Slatterly isn’t playing. Donnelly sold the jerseys a wee bit but Alexander should’ve changed it long before that. 

Upfront I thought Roberts was the best of a bad lot with Shields in particular offering nothing. Van Veen is either brilliant of uninterested. He doesn’t even offer the nuisance factor when he’s not playing well.

Its a clear as day we’re missing Watt big time. 

[Desp]

Considering his lack of goal threat this season, I thought we missed Woolery last night.  I like the effort that Shields puts in, and I think there's a player in there but I don't think he's quite there yet. 

Funnily enough, the Donnelly sending off might have done us a favour.  When Tierney came on and we went 4-4-2 with a diamond in midfield, the players looked clueless as what they were meant to be doing.  Within that 10 minutes, Cadden & Doig had the freedom of both flanks and it was probably the only time during the game where I was fearful of Hibs getting something.  The late change to 5-3-1 shored things up and we weren't threatened after that. 

[Swello]

11 minutes ago, Allroy for Prez said:

Its a clear as day we’re missing Watt big time. 

4 minutes ago, Desp said:

Considering his lack of goal threat this season, I thought we missed Woolery last night.

We were talking about this at the game last night - looking back at the Utd game, which was played in similarly shite conditions, Watt and Woolery ran themselves into the ground that night, were the main reason we won and I thought Woolery would have been well suited to last nights game (even if he was poor in the County and Morton games)

With KVV, there are definitely games he's really not up for it (or he gets really disheartened when he's not getting anything to work with) and last night was one of those. He's not a 6 or 7 out of 10 every week player but he is a player that can do stuff that those types generally can't and more than worth persevering with (although the chance he missed looked more of a sitter on the highlights than I realise at the game). Getting the right forward player in before the window ends feels important.

[Archie McSquackle]

I suppose when he picks the team he doesn't expect the weather to be quite as shite as it was last night and then wants to see how they get on. Maybe?[emoji848]

[Mr Hahn]

That Maloney interview is pretty confusing. Although I suppose technically speaking Hibs did have enough chances to win the game (I counted 2?) I must have dosed off for the "more than enough" part.  The only time I felt genuinely threatened was in the first minute when Nisbet went through. He maybe just took one touch too many and Carroll made a good block. The only other real chance I thought was for Doidge. Was a good bit of movement but did anyone really fancy him to score? Unless we're counting a Cadden cross that ran about 3m in front of all the attackers, not sure what I'm missing. 

As others have said, that was a total nothing game of football. Conditions were shite, play was generally lacking quality so we'll take the point and forget about it. 

For what it's worth, I thought we did slightly edge it and of the two teams I thought we were the more comfortable. Defensively we looked solid, even if the distribution at times was rotten (looking at you McGinley). Solholm again looked excellent for me and a decent shift from Carroll given he's not a CB.

Attacking-wise, we didn't offer a great deal though KVV should have scored. He was looking fed up in the second half and a bit surprised we didn't sub him for Woolery for the last wee bit to at least give a bit of chase across the top. Roberts was alright but Shields needs to bring a bit more. He has a bit of pace and looks like he should have a bit of strength but needs to get better at holding the ball if he's to take up the role that Watt used to hold.

I actually enjoyed the performance of our midfield last night but I may be in the minority on that. I'll hold my hands up and say I thought Goss was shite when he first appeared in the side but he's quickly become one of our better players this season for me. Maguire also put in a very decent shift. Donnelly's red is stupid, I agree with Alexander that I think a warning was probably right for that tackle, but if you're on a yellow, why even bother making it? It was in a nothing area of the park. Bring back Slattery please, not sure why's he's been dropped but he's easily one of our better players.

[Kyle Reese]

12 hours ago, Leith Green said:

He cant come out and say "as soon as I have the guys I want in place some of the dross (Wright, Campbell) will be out the door or on the subs bench"

But thats what he will be thinking..................I hope !

When Cathro came to Hearts, he started disassembling Neilson's side, replacing them with players who "know how to play his system". He brought in some guys who had a good pedigree like Tsziolis, and some guys who have gone on to prove they are good players elsewhere like Avlonitis. Now granted, we were starting with quite a decent squad who had finished third, and were third again when Neilson left, but the decline was horrific. Maloney is a different man to Cathro, but this is where it all started to fall apart for him at Hearts. It's always admirable to see someone come in to a Scottish club and tries to get them to play the way they  believe the game should be played. Doesn't always work out that way though.

[Chefki Kuqi]

I think it'll end up alright. We were without potentially 3 first choice CBs in Porteous, Hanlon and that may well be where Clarke plays too instead of McGinn, albeit the players who stepped in did a decent job and could fight for those places longer term. 

The midfield without Magennis is a worry, and we shouldn't really rely on him given he's been at the club for 18 months now and has played for 4 months at most in that period. 

I don't really see Wright or Campbell as problems, just think that Campbell should be played further back and Wright should a sub for Cadden/Clarke in the same way that Mitchell will be a sub for Doig. We'll be asking alot of our wingbacks to be the only widemen so regular rotation in those areas seems sensible to keep the players fresh.

Up top Nisbet needs proper support, whether that's in the form of another striker in Doidge/Melkerson or other widemen in Mueller/(Boyle replacement). 

There's not a huge amount that can be said about last night other than we were fairly poor in fairly poor conditions, but I think we need to acknowledge we faced a good team in Motherwell and a point isn't the end of the world.

Coming up to Livi/Hearts given the three games we've seen since the restart and the form isn't overly encouraging however, and I think they'll be harder games still. Livi seem to have something between their teeth and Hearts seem stronger now than had we faced them in early January. So in conclusion not overly confident about the run of games coming up but I think there's better to come from this team, it would be hard not to improve on last night at the very least.  

[Joe Terrapin]

Comparisons with cathro are mental. Maloney took over an underperforming shower on a shocking run of form and in 5 games has won 3, lost 1 and drawn 1. He has done this whilst experimenting with the players he's inherited and it is noticable already what he is trying to do. He has been plagued by suspensions and injuries including those of his new signings. The criticism he is receiving already is quite unbelievable. He has to be given time to adapt and develop.