NotThePars Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 I too love to list the Higher History syllabus in an attempt to sound pompous 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, welshbairn said: I didn't realise the strength of the Czech army and manufacturing at the time, but they also had the problem of controlling their German speaking and Slovak minorities who were increasingly pro German, or at least against the Prague Government. What exactly do you think the 'Sudeten' Germans would have done exactly? The Prague government seamlessly mobilised in a war scare in May 1938 and there was absolutely nothing that Henlein and the German population could do to stop it. Nothing changed between then and Munich. The Bohemian German republics were rolled up in 1918 without the Czechs breaking a sweat and they would have needed about 0.3 seconds after declaring a state of emergency to round up every leader they could find and toss them in jail. They weren't the Vietcong, they were a bunch of beetroot-faced clerks. Then we have "the Slovak minority". Firstly, the comfortable majority of Slovaks were in favour of the existing Republic: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1935_Slovak_provincial_election (Parties 3-8 were all centralist - forming a majority of all votes cast in Slovakia. Once you remove the huge Hungarian minority vote, the centralists won the Slovak vote by roughly 60-40 at the height of the Depression.) Secondly, the autonomist Slovak nationalist party were a bunch of fucking priest-politicians. They were the absolute polar opposite of a credible paramilitary organisation to threaten a militarised and well-organised state. Quote You have to take into account that most of the politicians at the time had direct experience of the horrors of WW1 and would do just about anything to avoid a repeat. And yet there were many politicians in the 1930s who had the exact same wartime experiences and yet concluded that a revisionist Germany under Hitler's auspices still had to be confronted to a prevent a wider and more disastrous conflagration from occurring. It's almost as if they had agency and were expected to do something, in their roles as Prime Minister of the UK or Premier of France. Chamberlain and his Berlin sycophant Neville Henderson are categorically on the wrong side of history and I'll have no truck with the revisionism doing the rounds yet again. Edited January 20, 2022 by vikingTON -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Genuine Hibs Fan said: You're the one talking about having the keys to the Skoda factory being the "tipping point" in a comprehensive demolishing by the Wehrmacht, a Wikipedia reader's level of analysis and framing, to try and look clever so maybe be less of a total dickhead to folk? Easy to act the hardman when you have a keyboard to hide behind. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Nothing like a square go over alternative histories. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genuine Hibs Fan Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 30 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said: Easy to act the hardman when you have a keyboard to hide behind. What an embarrassment 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Long time Lurker makes some valid points. Welshbairn makes some valid points 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 10 minutes ago, Genuine Hibs Fan said: What an embarrassment ...says the poster who used the word dickhead in a post while hiding behind a monitor. Beyond that who would have guessed that suggesting Neville Chamberlain shouldn't have pursued appeasement and that doing so made him a bigger failure than BoJo could lead to such a backlash. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Things getting heated in here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Nerdsgone. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genuine Hibs Fan Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said: ...says the poster who used the word dickhead in a post while hiding behind a monitor. Beyond that who would have guessed that suggesting Neville Chamberlain shouldn't have pursued appeasement and that doing so made him a bigger failure than BoJo could lead to such a backlash. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugby Is Terrible Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 7 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said: ...says the poster who used the word dickhead in a post while hiding behind a monitor. Beyond that who would have guessed that suggesting Neville Chamberlain shouldn't have pursued appeasement and that doing so made him a bigger failure than BoJo could lead to such a backlash. Stop handing out threats from behind the screen. It’s cowardly behaviour as you know nothing will come of it. It just makes you look like a shitebag twat. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Guess we found out what Genuine Hibs Fan's dotting account is. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8MileBU Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 hour ago, LongTimeLurker said: Guess we found out what Genuine Hibs Fan's dotting account is. Rugby is terrible to be fair. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRocketman II Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 "he got Brexit done" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 I didn't realise that Poland and Hungary were also threatening Czechoslovakia at the time of the Munich agreement, and seized slices of territory for themselves. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 On 21/01/2022 at 08:27, KingRocketman II said: "he got Brexit done" I hadn't realised that one objective of Brexit was to have bigger and better lorry queues than before, but it's clearly just another great success that we will be seeing the benefits of anytime now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 On 22/01/2022 at 10:38, Salt n Vinegar said: I hadn't realised that one objective of Brexit was to have bigger and better lorry queues than before, but it's clearly just another great success that we will be seeing the benefits of anytime now. Queueing is the one thing we British have always done better than everyone else, and Brexit has allowed us to continue to lead the world in this respect 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParsJake Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 On 19/01/2022 at 15:41, Dawson Park Boy said: As a conservative unionist Stopped reading right there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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