You've got a fast car

[Mark Knopfler]

This b*****d song romanticises having a fast car.

However, driving fast is a surefire way to die horribly.

Would you prefer to have a slow car?

[Todd_is_God]

@alta-pete

[UsedToGoToCentralPark]

This b*****d song romanticises having a fast car.
However, driving fast is a surefire way to die horribly.
Would you prefer to have a slow car?

No

[Mark Connolly]

I'd prefer to have a Kia or a Lexus, the speed is no issue

[Mark Knopfler]

23 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said:

I'd prefer to have a Kia or a Lexus, the speed is no issue

Fucking terrible cars. What drugs do you take?

[alta-pete]

2 hours ago, Mark Knopfler said:

This b*****d song romanticises having a fast car.

However, driving inappropriately fast is a surefire way to die horribly.

Would you prefer to have a slow car?

FTFY. 

But it is easily possible to be driving with inappropriate speed in the most mundane shitbox.

And indeed the shitbox is probably a whole lot less safe as it doesn’t have the brakes, tyres and suspension that the fast car has to cope with its performance potential. So you’re a whole lot less likely to die horribly in that fast car. 

An old truism - the most dangerous part of the car is the nut behind the wheel. 

[UsedToGoToCentralPark]

If your going to walk out in front of a car, make sure it's a fast one.

[KingRocketman II]

20 hours ago, Mark Knopfler said:

This b*****d song romanticises having a fast car.

However, driving fast is a surefire way to die horribly.

Would you prefer to have a slow car? Or if you live in a city, dispense with your car and ride a bike?

Less cars and more bikes will make cities and the surrounding environment more pleasant for everyone. Unless you're a taxi driver or a nutter. 

[G51]

19 hours ago, Mark Knopfler said:

Fucking terrible cars. What drugs do you take?

Would have to disagree on this, the Kia Stinger is an absolutely lovely car. I'd recommend the GT-Line, with it's 300hp, 2.5L engine.

[Cardinal Richelieu]

Uphill runs become power-sappingly mundane, while overtaking National Express coaches can become a long, drawn-out experience. 

[KingRocketman II]

8 minutes ago, oaksoft said:

Or disabled.

loads of specialist bikes. and cycling infrastructures in town are largely compatible with wheelchairs - much more so in many cases than existing pavements. 

[KingRocketman II]

3 minutes ago, oaksoft said:

Al of which require a ton of money.

Money which vast numbers of disabled people are highly unlikely to have access to.

As for infrastructure, many councils can't even get kerbs dropped properly.

a bike or specialist bike is cheaper than a car and cheaper to maintain. Govt grants for mobility also in place. Improving the infrastructure can be expensive but again central grants in place and also with a medium to longer term approach, less cars and more bikes, mean less costly road maintenance required. 

The approach to making people and green transport a priority for cities, and the benefits that bring, are not primarily around funding though of course it is a consideration - the biggest obstacle is mindset. 

[KingRocketman II]

31 minutes ago, oaksoft said:

All of which require a ton of money.

Money which vast numbers of disabled people are traditionally highly unlikely to have access to.

As for infrastructure, many councils can't even get kerbs dropped properly. Many people have to go up and down kerbs backwards to stop the front wheels catching on kerbs and tipping them out headfirst.

There's an awful lot of uneducated smuggery amongst environmentalists and cycling cultists regarding this sort of thing. Some of them need to borrow a wheelchair for the afternoon and try getting around for themselves to actually understand the issues.

just to add on the back of your addition/edit, it is about cutting down on the number of times people use cars and making cities more people friendly and making people the priority. We are still stuck in a 60s mindset where car is king and motorists are VIPs that need to take priority over everything else. There will still be a need an exception for those who need a car to get from A to B due to a disability - that shouldn't be cited as a factor or barrier in seeking to rid city centres of the majority of cars. 

[Theroadlesstravelled]

@Tracy Chapman

[alta-pete]

10 hours ago, G51 said:

Would have to disagree on this, the Kia Stinger is an absolutely lovely car. I'd recommend the GT-Line, with it's 300hp, 2.5L engine.

Sorry to correct M8 but it’s 3.3l and 360bhp. #carbore 

(Just getting the thread back on track and away from the eco mentalist and the entirely worthy but mispositioned discussion about the less mobile.)

[BillyAnchor]

Sooner or later, you're gonna listen to Ralph Nader

[Miguel Sanchez]

I've had this song stuck in my head ever since I saw this thread title. Good tune.

[DiegoDiego]

Disabled people are amongst the poorest in our society.
Many of them are on benefits.
Many of them won't own a car at all due to the cost, let alone fund a replacement.
Government grants don't always cover what you are suggesting.
It's not as simple as being a mindset issue. It's a financial issue for millions of people.
 

So if the disabled people in question have neither cars nor bikes why would fewer cars and more bikes make the slightest difference to them?

[Shandon Par]

I’ve never crashed a fast car. I did however roll my 1litre Fiesta Popular into a field of butter beans. Farmer was annoyed at me and so were the police as  the wreckage was causing a traffic jam as folk slowed to see the stump of car poking up above the crops. 

[Melanius Mullarkey]

5 hours ago, Theroadlesstravelled said:

@Tracy Chapman

Wid.