John Burridge Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 On watching the Walter Smith documentary on BBC last night, it mentioned the foreigners rule changing around the time of Graeme Souness leaving Rangers. When was the foreigners ruling introduced and was this change from 4 to 3+2 naturalised? This article https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football-foreigner-rule-illegal-1526747.html Also suggests it was imposed in domestic tournaments in English football as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, John Burridge said: On watching the Walter Smith documentary on BBC last night, it mentioned the foreigners rule changing around the time of Graeme Souness leaving Rangers. When was the foreigners ruling introduced and was this change from 4 to 3+2 naturalised? This article https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football-foreigner-rule-illegal-1526747.html Also suggests it was imposed in domestic tournaments in English football as well. According to my Sunday Times Illustrated History of Football: it was 1988-89 that UEFA limited clubs to 4 foreign players - treating each Home Nation as seperate. It only applied to new signings. Then from 1991-92 it says "UEFA under pressure from the EEC agreed to allow clubs to field 5 foreign players in league matches" which is presumably your 3/2 until Bosman in 1996. Edited December 31, 2021 by HibeeJibee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 (edited) I don't recall it being in use domestically anywhere in the UK. Although it certainly was in Serie A. The big thing always seemed to be the struggle between readjusting League XI to European XI which is why Man Utd were so poor mid 90s Eg Man Utd starting XI v Norwich August 1992 was Schmeichel Den Irwin Ire Parker Bruce Pallister Sharpe Ince Kanchelskis Rus Giggs Wal Cantona Fra McClair Sco Edited December 31, 2021 by invergowrie arab 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 On 31/12/2021 at 21:18, invergowrie arab said: I don't recall it being in use domestically anywhere in the UK. Although it certainly was in Serie A. The big thing always seemed to be the struggle between readjusting League XI to European XI which is why Man Utd were so poor mid 90s Eg Man Utd starting XI v Norwich August 1992 was Schmeichel Den Irwin Ire Parker Bruce Pallister Sharpe Ince Kanchelskis Rus Giggs Wal Cantona Fra McClair Sco Bring it back tomorrow for me Stop clubs signing endless foreign dross rather than developing own players 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurkst Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 On 02/01/2022 at 14:20, Binos said: Bring it back tomorrow for me Stop clubs signing endless foreign dross rather than developing own players I'd definitely be in favour of introducing a minimum number of home grown players. Really disappointing in recent seasons seeing some struggling Premiership teams with barely a Scot in their lineups. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 The "8 Diddies Rule". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afca32 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 (edited) 20 hours ago, Lurkst said: I'd definitely be in favour of introducing a minimum number of home grown players. Really disappointing in recent seasons seeing some struggling Premiership teams with barely a Scot in their lineups. Likewise, not as if most of the foreigners that come and play here are much good anyway. 4 Scots in the starting lineup, for example, really shouldn't be too much to ask. Edited January 5, 2022 by afca32 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurkst Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 This thread was posted elsewhere but definitely relevant here... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Calling your son Brown showed no forecast of the bullying he must have suffered at school. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highland Capital Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 On 31/12/2021 at 21:18, invergowrie arab said: I don't recall it being in use domestically anywhere in the UK. Although it certainly was in Serie A. The big thing always seemed to be the struggle between readjusting League XI to European XI which is why Man Utd were so poor mid 90s Eg Man Utd starting XI v Norwich August 1992 was Schmeichel Den Irwin Ire Parker Bruce Pallister Sharpe Ince Kanchelskis Rus Giggs Wal Cantona Fra McClair Sco There was an away game at Barcelona where Cantona and Schmeichel had to pull out I'm sure because the UEFA rule was different to the Premier League rule at the time. Not sure why they'd drop those two but I'm certain it was the two of them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 On 10/01/2022 at 21:19, Highland Capital said: There was an away game at Barcelona where Cantona and Schmeichel had to pull out I'm sure because the UEFA rule was different to the Premier League rule at the time. Not sure why they'd drop those two but I'm certain it was the two of them. Cantona was suspended for that game. Ferguson wanted to use his three foreigners as outfield players - he went with Kanchelskis, Keane and Irwin and played Gary Walsh in goal, there's a Guardian article about it. Barca's three were Koeman, Romario and Stoichkov. Barca won that game 4-0, it was an absolute pasting. It really took a few years for English football to get up to competitiveness in Europe after the ban ended. My memory is that Rangers used to struggle with it a bit at that time, with guys like Gary Bollan, Alec Cleland and Neil Murray getting regular runouts against Juventus. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lurkst Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 On 12/01/2022 at 16:51, ICTChris said: My memory is that Rangers used to struggle with it a bit at that time, with guys like Gary Bollan, Alec Cleland and Neil Murray getting regular runouts against Juventus. Super Scott Nisbet though... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 On 12/01/2022 at 16:51, ICTChris said: Cantona was suspended for that game. Ferguson wanted to use his three foreigners as outfield players - he went with Kanchelskis, Keane and Irwin and played Gary Walsh in goal, there's a Guardian article about it. Barca's three were Koeman, Romario and Stoichkov. Barca won that game 4-0, it was an absolute pasting. It really took a few years for English football to get up to competitiveness in Europe after the ban ended. My memory is that Rangers used to struggle with it a bit at that time, with guys like Gary Bollan, Alec Cleland and Neil Murray getting regular runouts against Juventus. Alec Cleland needing to buy a ticket to get back in after being skinned by Del Piero, before being sent off shortly after for attempting to main him in revenge is one of the great "out of their depth" Scotsmen in Europe stories 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booker-T Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 On 02/01/2022 at 14:20, Binos said: Bring it back tomorrow for me Stop clubs signing endless foreign dross rather than developing own players Maybe that can be your Brexit benefit 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 15 minutes ago, Booker-T said: Maybe that can be your Brexit benefit Apparently it's more difficult now for English clubs to buy youngsters from abroad so are now looking more north again 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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