The Famous Aberdeen v the Glesga Sevco

[gannonball]

To be fair to McGregor  I think he was going for the ball then tried  to bail out once he realised he wasn’t getting it.

[AJF]

1 minute ago, Empty It said:

McGregor doing McGregor things and somehow avoiding either a penalty or a red yet Rangers are still the victims here.

Why are people building this narrative that doesn’t exist

Nobody has claimed we are the “victims”. I simply said it was not a bookable offence for Kent (neither of them were, really).

Maybe read what’s being written.

[G51]

1 minute ago, gaz5 said:

Not "every challenge". Just that one.

It’s still a very stupid argument.

[AJF]

1 minute ago, gaz5 said:

Not "every challenge". Just that one.

It’s a poor argument. What if Brown pings the ball over the top of our defence and Aberdeen score?

Edited January 18, 2022 by AJF

[lubo_blaha]

Play like we did tonight and we will.

Only 1 point off 5th and 3 off 4th.

[gaz5]

It’s still a very stupid argument.

It's not though.

The stupid argument is the one where you want players on a yellow already going "100% into every challenge" and having no regard for the circumstances around it.

Reward: throw to Aberdeen, if you block it. Risk: Red card because of the opponent and the ref in that particular scenario.

Pretty simple logic and something every manager at every level will tell their players. You can't control how shite refs like Clancy are, but you can control your own decisions.

[Flybhoy]

18 minutes ago, bennett said:

Taps making a sound like a foghorn, google says ballcock. Is that easy to fix or will I flood the hoose?

You got a tank in your attic? 

[gaz5]

It’s a poor argument. What if Brown pings the ball over the top of our defence and Aberdeen score?

Is the probability of that higher or lower than Brown making a meal of the challenge and Clancy making a shite decision, given the data we have to hand?

[G51]

1 minute ago, gaz5 said:

It's not though.

The stupid argument is the one where you want players on a yellow already going "100% into every challenge" and having no regard for the circumstances around it.

Reward: throw to Aberdeen, if you block it. Risk: Red card because of the opponent and the ref in that particular scenario.

Pretty simple logic and something every manager at every level will tell their players. You can't control how shite refs like Clancy are, but you can control your own decisions.

The reward is stopping a counter attack. 

Using this logic and applying it consistently throughout the match effectively conceded the game.

[Jacksgranda]

From the BBC report on tonight's match - "then Kent was harshly shown a second yellow for a challenge on Brown,"

Must have been watching a different match from me.

[gaz5]

The reward is stopping a counter attack. 
Using this logic and applying it consistently throughout the match effectively conceded the game.

Is that reward greater or less than the risk of going to 10 men, given the scenario at that specific time?

[Left Back]

Just now, gaz5 said:

It's not though.

The stupid argument is the one where you want players on a yellow already going "100% into every challenge" and having no regard for the circumstances around it.

Reward: throw to Aberdeen, if you block it. Risk: Red card because of the opponent and the ref in that particular scenario.

Pretty simple logic and something every manager at every level will tell their players. You can't control how shite refs like Clancy are, but you can control your own decisions.

Never underestimate how stupid your average footballer is when it comes to picking up yellow cards.  Mouthing to the ref, squaring up to opponents, time-wasting, kicking the ball away.  All needless but you see it in every game.

I can forgive players getting a yellow for hoofing someone up in the air (SoD ).  Not for any of the above though.

[AJF]

15 minutes ago, Left Back said:

The word is genuine.  He’s not got near the ball at any time.  That’s not classed as a genuine attempt to play the ball.  It’s all in the laws for anyone that wants to read them.

McGregor is less than a metre away at the point Hedges nicks the ball ahead of him. How can you look at the picture below and say it isn’t a genuine attempt to play the ball?

 

[DukDukGoose]

I'm his biggest critic but Hayes was class tonight.

[Snifter Pee Rot]

4 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said:

From the BBC report on tonight's match - "then Kent was harshly shown a second yellow for a challenge on Brown,"

Must have been watching a different match from me.

 

Lady Bear Crichton maybe.

[AB1872]

23 minutes ago, AJF said:

I’m struggling to understand what Kent actually done wrong?

If you don’t know by now you’ll never know

Barisic fouled twice at penalty 

Morelos booked for having arms

Kent sent off for two bookings that were not even fouls

Brown and McRorie both should have been off. Both should have been booked before they were

Barisic hit twice in the face by Hayes who was booked and had also hit Wright in the face 

Ball was moving as penalty is hit 

But hey Rangers get all the decisions. 

[10menwent2mow]

21 minutes ago, AJF said:

What makes you think McGregor wasn’t trying to play the ball? There was no deliberate attempt to make contact with Hedges, albeit he did make contact with him.

The only reason a keeper comes out their box like that is to play the ball.

That's an incredible take. When you watch it again, please tell me which part of his body McGregor tries to play the ball with. He dives across the face of hedges body in a full superman dive and gets nowhere near the football with any part of himself. 

[TheScarf]

You definitely need to play the conditions and scenarios of a match. You can’t go round the pitch ‘giving 100%’ which is code for going in on every challenge, when you’re on a yellow and Kevin Clancy is the referee. 

[AJF]

3 minutes ago, gaz5 said:

5 minutes ago, G51 said:

The reward is stopping a counter attack. 
Using this logic and applying it consistently throughout the match effectively conceded the game.

Is that reward greater or less than the risk of going to 10 men, given the scenario at that specific time?

I would accept that point if Kent actually committed a bookable offence but he never. He never clattered into Brown, he never went through him. He done very, very little other than try and get in front of the ball.

[DrewDon]

van Bronckhorst seems far too likeable to manage Rangers.