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Arbroath v Morton - 18th December


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58 minutes ago, Tattie36 said:

This is a match threat, stop stinking it up with club infighting crap, take that to your own forum.

You will sit here and take our club infighting as preparation for Saturday afternoon's takeover of Gayfield with the exact same issue. 

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22 minutes ago, The Ghost of B A R P said:

Not twisting anything. The doing at Palmerston meant precisely nothing; three points against Ayr was crucial.

Managers stand or fall on their records; MacPherson fell, rightly so and at the right time.

And let’s see what the recruitment process brings before jumping to conclusions about what we did or didn’t have in mind…

Honestly, this is like pulling teeth…….

The game against Ayr was the 16th league game of the season. Therefore there were 60 points to play for after it, regardless of the result. In no way, then, can that game be described as “crucial”. Important? Yes, of course, as are all the games when you’re in our position; especially the ones against the other four teams in our mini-league of relegation candidates. But it would only have been “crucial” if it were one of the last games of the season and we were still in danger of going down.

We’re in agreement that he had to go - but we should’ve been further down the line in terms of replacing him before we gave him the bullet. The situation after the Ayr game wasn’t great, of course not - but it wasn’t so dire that we had to leave ourselves in the hands of two guys with no managerial experience (and Andy bloody Millen) for at the very least the next two league games.

 

 

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1 hour ago, DUAFC said:

Assuming Ricky will be back, big Hendo will be disappointed if he's left out and I have sympathy for him.

I'd  certainly start with Dowds and Nouble up top as they were immense in the 2nd half v Thistle 

I don’t think Ricky can play until Boxing Day due to concussion protocol 

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22 minutes ago, lichtie23 said:

If Nicola has her way it will 

 Likely to be more restrictive in Wales by tomorrow evening and is more restrictive currently in N Ireland. Premier League in England already in a mess with the likelihood of more to come. 

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44 minutes ago, embow said:

 Likely to be more restrictive in Wales by tomorrow evening and is more restrictive currently in N Ireland. Premier League in England already in a mess with the likelihood of more to come. 

Aye without derailing the thread. They’re all fannies along with the majority of the population. 
 

Anyway I really doubt it.

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3 hours ago, Tattie36 said:

Jeezo what a touchy bunch. Here was me wishing you all the best in the playoffs last season too, wish Airdire had pumped you now 😉

Airdrie (correct spelling) were completely incapable of getting a hard-on by that stage; Cove, if their keeper hadn't chucked one in in the semi (fnaaar), would've pumped us rotten.

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Best we can hope for is a draw coupled with a QotS or Dunfermline pumping to take us up a spot or two and then for this league to be fucking cancelled. We stay up and St. Johnstone get to have a good ol' cry the same way Hearts did last time and we no longer need to watch this Morton team. Everyone's a winner. 

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16 hours ago, Rudolph Hucker said:

Honestly, this is like pulling teeth…….

The game against Ayr was the 16th league game of the season. Therefore there were 60 points to play for after it, regardless of the result. In no way, then, can that game be described as “crucial”. Important? Yes, of course, as are all the games when you’re in our position; especially the ones against the other four teams in our mini-league of relegation candidates. But it would only have been “crucial” if it were one of the last games of the season and we were still in danger of going down.

We’re in agreement that he had to go - but we should’ve been further down the line in terms of replacing him before we gave him the bullet. The situation after the Ayr game wasn’t great, of course not - but it wasn’t so dire that we had to leave ourselves in the hands of two guys with no managerial experience (and Andy bloody Millen) for at the very least the next two league games.

 

 

You’ll have noticed that I’m in the habit of playing the post and not the poster, but really… stop digging.

Your argument is that away to QoS in the diddy cup made your mind up… but we should still have held off after chucking three points away against one of our main relegation rivals, because a. that game was somehow not ‘crucial’; b. we didn’t have a replacement lined up.

First up, that game is precisely the kind of game teams that survive have to win, regardless of how many points are still to play for. It’s winning those games that keep you away from desperate relegation deciders or play-offs later on. Our piss-poor January last year under McElhone was what got us into serious trouble in the first place. So yes, crucial.

As for MacPherson, I was one of those arguing he should be given every chance. He was given every chance. He wasn’t able to take them. He was sacked at precisely the point when it was reasonable and necessary to sack him: a. because of his overall (league) record; b. to give us time to get the right replacement in before QoS at home (a crucial fixture) and the January window to follow. (Btw, that point would almost certainly have come sooner but for a 97th-minute equaliser against Hamilton and the win against a caught-in-the-headlights Dunfermline a week later).

So aye, we agree he had to go; but let’s not pretend the diddy cup game had anything to do with it; or, bizarrely, that he should have been left in place for longer.

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5 hours ago, AsimButtHitsASix said:

Best we can hope for is a draw coupled with a QotS or Dunfermline pumping to take us up a spot or two and then for this league to be fucking cancelled. We stay up and St. Johnstone get to have a good ol' cry the same way Hearts did last time and we no longer need to watch this Morton team. Everyone's a winner. 

Agree that, at this stage, and subject to new manager and squad turnover, ‘null and void’ is by far our best bet of staying up.

Tragic but true.

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