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6 minutes ago, DA Baracus said:

This is distracting from the real issue, which is of course which is the better album; 'Big Willie Style' or 'Willenium'?

Both are cracking listens. Big Willie Style can boast absolutely bangers like 'Gettin Jiggy wit It', 'Men in Black', 'Chasing Forever', 'Just The Two of Us' and the clear standout, the exceptional 'Miami'.

However, Willenium throws out some belters too. 'So Fresh', 'Afro Angel', 'The Rain' and the phenomenal 'Wild Wild West' all feature, but the hugely underrated 'Will 2K' is an early smasher of a track on a fantastic album.

It really is very difficult to call.

Entirely disagree. It's Big Willie Style by a distance.

Totally agree with your opinion of Miami, however.

 

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12 minutes ago, Detournement said:

Will Smith funded a school for his kids and a load of 'civilian'to weans that was completely based on L Ron Hubbard's beliefs. He's a crackpot. 

The question of how much Cruise, Travolta etc actually believe  has been bugging me for years. Folk like Beck and Elizabeth Moss were born into it but it's hard to imagine succesful people being brainwashed. Stanley Kubrick's daughter Vivian is extremely intelligent and she ended up in it despite his best efforts. 

I mean, all religions are based on stories that loosely could be described as science fiction, but the fact this one was literally started by a (second-rate) science fiction author should be the clue right there that it's bullshit.

That being said, every couple of years or so, we dig out a DVD of Battlefield: Earth and watch it for shits and giggles - it might be one of the worst films ever made, but it's worth the watch just to see Travolta chewing the scenery.

 

 

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37 minutes ago, VincentGuerin said:

My favourite part of this thread is all the wee sweety wives who are for some reason not only interested in, but staggeringly well-informed about, the domestic arrangements of the Smith family.

 

They literally made a podcast about it. It's not quite sweety wife behaviour when both of them have it on public record.

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9 minutes ago, Hillonearth said:

I mean, all religions are based on stories that loosely could be described as science fiction, but the fact this one was literally started by a (second-rate) science fiction author should be the clue right there that it's bullshit.

That being said, every couple of years or so, we dig out a DVD of Battlefield: Earth and watch it for shits and giggles - it might be one of the worst films ever made, but it's worth the watch just to see Travolta chewing the scenery.

 

 

L Ron Hubbard even wrote a short story about somebody getting rich by inventing a new religion, shortly before he came up with Scientology.

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34 minutes ago, DA Baracus said:

This is distracting from the real issue, which is of course which is the better album; 'Big Willie Style' or 'Willenium'?

Both are cracking listens. Big Willie Style can boast absolutely bangers like 'Gettin Jiggy wit It', 'Men in Black', 'Chasing Forever', 'Just The Two of Us' and the clear standout, the exceptional 'Miami'.

However, Willenium throws out some belters too. 'So Fresh', 'Afro Angel', 'The Rain' and the phenomenal 'Wild Wild West' all feature, but the hugely underrated 'Will 2K' is an early smasher of a track on a fantastic album.

It really is very difficult to call.

Big Willie Style. Not even a hard call.

Though I'm almost willing to accept the existence of the steaming steampunk pile of shite that was Wild Wild West for the fact that the accompanying title song is indeed, a banger.

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40 minutes ago, Detournement said:

Will Smith funded a school for his kids and a load of 'civilian'to weans that was completely based on L Ron Hubbard's beliefs. He's a crackpot. 

That's a new definition of summer madness.

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30 minutes ago, Bully Wee Villa said:

Isn't part of the issue the fact that large parts of Scientology are just counselling without the promise of privacy that you'd get from a proper counsellor?

Particularly if you're rich and famous, you have to stay in or they'll blackmail you with all the dirty secrets they've accumulated over the years. 

Aye the auditing seems to break people down and leave them vulnerable. Obviously higher values recruits get treated differently but in the case of Cruise and Travolta there must be some blackmail going on. The auditing/process scene in The Master with Phillip Seymour Hoffman playing effectively L Ron Hubbard and Joaquin Phoenix as the inductee is supposed to be quite accurate.

There is a strange theory about children in the womb being tramautised by the mother's negative words and thoughts that Cruise believed to the extent that Katie Holmes had to give birth in silence.

 

 

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I feel like if it was staged he would have kept character the whole way through and appeared raging as soon as he heard the joke.

Laughing at first makes it look like he didn’t care until he saw his wife was annoyed then he felt like he needed to do something.

Bit weird that this is the line being crossed and not his wife pumping other men tbh.

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2 hours ago, DA Baracus said:

This is distracting from the real issue, which is of course which is the better album; 'Big Willie Style' or 'Willenium'?

Both are cracking listens. Big Willie Style can boast absolutely bangers like 'Gettin Jiggy wit It', 'Men in Black', 'Chasing Forever', 'Just The Two of Us' and the clear standout, the exceptional 'Miami'.

However, Willenium throws out some belters too. 'So Fresh', 'Afro Angel', 'The Rain' and the phenomenal 'Wild Wild West' all feature, but the hugely underrated 'Will 2K' is an early smasher of a track on a fantastic album.

It really is very difficult to call.

I bought the greatest hits years ago. classic.

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Obviously it’s “fake” in as much as it wasn’t intended to cause serious physical damage

Smith trained for the Ali movie, he’s not going to be an expert but he’ll know enough to throw a decent punch at an opponent that’s wide open and he a cruiserweight facing a welterweight. Yet Rock remains on his feet without even a stumble

That said it might have been real in the sense that even if it was only a symbolic slap it was a spontaneous one.

Either was Smith looks like a twat for sitting down and whining loudly after the what should have dramatic climax

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7 minutes ago, topcat(The most tip top) said:

Obviously it’s “fake” in as much as it wasn’t intended to cause serious physical damage

Smith trained for the Ali movie, he’s not going to be an expert but he’ll know enough to throw a decent punch at an opponent that’s wide open and he a cruiserweight facing a welterweight. Yet Rock remains on his feet without even a stumble

That said it might have been real in the sense that even if it was only a symbolic slap it was a spontaneous one.

Either was Smith looks like a twat for sitting down and whining loudly after the what should have dramatic climax

Yup, that ruined it for me, a smug smile and raised eyebrow would have sufficed. Although saying "f**k" twice at the Oscars might have been part of the bet, if so fair enough.

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Obviously it’s “fake” in as much as it wasn’t intended to cause serious physical damage

Smith trained for the Ali movie, he’s not going to be an expert but he’ll know enough to throw a decent punch at an opponent that’s wide open and he a cruiserweight facing a welterweight. Yet Rock remains on his feet without even a stumble

That said it might have been real in the sense that even if it was only a symbolic slap it was a spontaneous one.

Either was Smith looks like a twat for sitting down and whining loudly after the what should have dramatic climax
I'll say it again, I'd sooner be punched than slapped. I don't think he hit Rock to 'damage' him but more to humiliate him which is exactly what the slap was.
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