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34 minutes ago, Brian Graham’s Lovely Hair said:

Scotland are a good football team. Ukraine are better. 

Didn’t play like one. In fact, could barely string a pass together.

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2 minutes ago, velo army said:

Probably the least competitive performance I've seen from us since Belgium.

Try Croatia or possibly Denmark away - these are pretty good teams

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2 hours ago, Ro Sham Bo said:

Had a quick read of the initial match report on the BBC website and it reads like Ukraine are the home nation. Utterly pathetic. 

I wonder if Wales will roll out the red carpet for them as much as we have done? 

Doesn't matter...Wales are better than us.

 

 

 

 

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Didn’t expect Scotland to underperform like that. Fairly comfortable in the end for Ukraine. Was a class day meeting up with old friends and new. Thought Ukraine set up perfectly and managed the game well. Buschan a bomb scare  as always but Zinchenko, Ysrmolenko and Karavyev were superb.

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2 minutes ago, Karpaty Lviv said:

Didn’t expect Scotland to underperform like that. Fairly comfortable in the end for Ukraine. Was a class day meeting up with old friends and new. Thought Ukraine set up perfectly and managed the game well. Buschan a bomb scare  as always but Zinchenko, Ysrmolenko and Karavyev were superb.

I thought Petrakov had fallen out with Karavaev after his mistakes in the 2-2 draw with Kazakhstan? 

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Better, more accurate, team won. Scotland's final ball, & finishing, was woeful.
Lucky with the goal they got, as it looked like they could play til the next WC without scoring!

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Throughout most of my time as a Scotland fan i've routinely watched us play against other countries and wondered why they were just on a different level technically to us, why we just didn't have players who could control and pass a ball the way they could. Recently that's faded away, with us having players like Gilmour, Tierney, McGregor, McTominay etc who looked technically good and comfortable on the ball - we've played some decent stuff recently, we played Denmark off the park at times and knocked it about against a team that went on to reach the final of the Euros. Tonight felt like a throwback to the times where we just looked miles off the level, where we were back wondering why other countries can just produce better technical players than us, and are just seemingly on a different level to us. 

I know that we still have the players, but tonight was a right boot in the baws. Naively thought this Scotland squad had broken the shackles a bit and we'd moved beyond *that* type of performance. Although, as scunnered as i am - we were beaten by a team who were quite clearly better than us, who we just didn't deserve to beat.

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Throughout most of my time as a Scotland fan i've routinely watched us play against other countries and wondered why they were just on a different level technically to us, why we just didn't have players who could control and pass a ball the way they could. Recently that's faded away, with us having players like Gilmour, Tierney, McGregor, McTominay etc who looked technically good and comfortable on the ball - we've played some decent stuff recently, we played Denmark off the park at times and knocked it about against a team that went on to reach the final of the Euros. Tonight felt like a throwback to the times where we just looked miles off the level, where we were back wondering why other countries can just produce better technical players than us, and are just seemingly on a different level to us. 
I know that we still have the players, but tonight was a right boot in the baws. Naively thought this Scotland squad had broken the shackles a bit and we'd moved beyond *that* type of performance. Although, as scunnered as i am - we were beaten by a team who were quite clearly better than us, who we just didn't deserve to beat.
Pretty much this. Hard to cling on to the notion of progress when you watch us more or less repeat our failures of nearly 1 year ago
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4 hours ago, Bonksy+HisChristianParade said:

Wrong. According to @Satoshi he’s a faded force (ignore the last game he played for Wales where he absolutely fucking ragdolled Austria). 

Have you not been following his club career? Or do you really think he's as good as he ever was?

Just finished watching the replay of the game there (couldn't watch live due to timezone).

Disappointing performance but Ukraine does have 44m vs our 5m so you would generally expect them to be better (notwithstanding their current situation). Still, a home game in a playoff is a good chance, and a chance missed.

Getting to the playoffs is certainly a good outcome from WCQ, and we had some fantastic results along the way including beating Denmark.

Overall, a positive campaign and maybe in future the stars will align and we will qualify for the WC again. It will be tough as a small nation in the European qualification section but we might do it every 20/30 years or so. Until then it will be the Euros for us.

I hope, and expect, Ukraine will beat Wales. Good luck to them.

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That could have been 4 or 5. It was embarrassing to the point that my usual non-footballing pals thought we were 'doing the favour'.

It highlights what a disaster it was that Clarke's Scotland completely fucked the last Nation's group for the WC back up opportunity. 

Insipid performance with the scoreline kept down by Gordon. Really poor.

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16 minutes ago, Satoshi said:

Disappointing performance but Ukraine does have 44m vs our 5m so you would generally expect them to be better

We're long overdue another debate on this issue.

Somebody wake up Supras.

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55 minutes ago, Alert Mongoose said:

Sigh. At least there wasn't the usual 'hard luck story'.

We were treated to the classic "well, Scotland always have to do it the hard way" when we went 2-0 down.

I really fucking hate that cliché, as it implies that we have a history of going behind in critical games before coming back and achieving our goal. In reality, we just have a history of going behind in critical games.

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Ukraine coach had clearly watched us against Croatia at the Euros: knew exactly how to beat us and it could and should have been more.

Clarke, on that evidence, has erased all memories of last summer. Incredible that he picked that team against that opposition; incredible to persist with a back three without Tierney; and beyond incredible to stand there for so long before changing it.

Players were awful (Gordon and maybe McGregor aside), but we were set up to fail. Why then are we surprised when we fail?

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