Hillonearth Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 12 hours ago, Boghead ranter said: Who said that he was astounded that he had turned out to be a wrong 'un, as "we shared a house with only one bathroom and toilet, and when you share washing and toileting facilities with someone, you really get to know them". Bizarre. If really getting to know someone is defined by finding out that they clog up the bath with pubes or are bad for leaving skiddies in the pan, I'd tend to agree. Not a great barometer of their inclination to blow themselves up though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Egg face put him up to it I reckon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur daley Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 8 minutes ago, Hillonearth said: they clog up the bath with pubes or are bad for leaving skiddies in the pan, Not a great barometer of their inclination to blow themselves up though. That’s good to know as was sounding like I could have been a suicide terroist in the making. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 (edited) https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-59317136 8 months in preparation and... Edited November 17, 2021 by Sergeant Wilson 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 49 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Egg face put him up to it I reckon. Who is the person with the blurred face? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Just now, 101 said: Who is the person with the blurred face? MI5 agent provocateur, code name egg face. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, 101 said: Who is the person with the blurred face? That will be his MI5 handler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Just now, welshbairn said: MI5 agent provocateur, code name egg face. Ah nice one, I was worried that all the folk in the picture were terrorists including the man who's nicked little bo peeps stick. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 2 hours ago, coprolite said: The flip side of saying that most suicide bombers must be mentally ill is an implication that mentally ill people are more likely to be terrorists. Now i'm not an al queada general or anything but i'd probably prefer my bombers to not be at risk of just wandering off or being unable to get out of bed. What are you defining as mentally ill here? I don't think anyone is suggesting that every person with depression or bipolar disorder are capable of being a terrorist, but simply to get to the point that you're blowing yourself up there must be something clouding your judgement. It's not rational thought, regardless of how legitimate they think they're beliefs are. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 1 minute ago, The Moonster said: What are you defining as mentally ill here? I don't think anyone is suggesting that every person with depression or bipolar disorder are capable of being a terrorist, but simply to get to the point that you're blowing yourself up there must be something clouding your judgement. It's not rational thought, regardless of how legitimate they think they're beliefs are. You might not agree with the cause or the motive, but people who sacrifice themselves for what they see as the greater good are usually called heroes, and their rationality isn't called into question. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, welshbairn said: You might not agree with the cause or the motive, but people who sacrifice themselves for what they see as the greater good are usually called heroes, and their rationality isn't called into question. Blowing yourself up isn't rational. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, The Moonster said: Blowing yourself up isn't rational. What if it was while shaking hands with Hitler? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 1 minute ago, welshbairn said: What if it was while shaking hands with Hitler? I hereby claim Godwins Law and end this discussion. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Joe Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 I think a lot of people see not being of sound mind as seeking to excuse the crime, instead of trying to find out the reasoning behind criminal behaviour. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 32 minutes ago, The Moonster said: What are you defining as mentally ill here? I don't think anyone is suggesting that every person with depression or bipolar disorder are capable of being a terrorist, but simply to get to the point that you're blowing yourself up there must be something clouding your judgement. It's not rational thought, regardless of how legitimate they think they're beliefs are. It wasn't me that diagnosed the guy so i'll leave it with those posters as to what they meant by mental illness. If you're talking about an inability to think rationally then that's the traditional definition of insanity. To the extent that anyone actually does think rationally (i.e. Ignoring modern neuroscience) it can be perfectly rational to blow yourself up if your beliefs are "wrong". If there's little for you to live for and you think you'll go to virgin slut paradise as a hero, why wouldn't you? Rational decision making and critical thinking about what objective facts are are related but not the same thing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 So can we rule out that this is someone who was asked to organise Guy Fawkes night at the hospital and as well as being several days late he was not very good at making his own fireworks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 1 hour ago, welshbairn said: MI5 agent provocateur, code name egg face. Real name Al Bumen. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, Zen Archer (Raconteur) said: Real name Al Bumen. Is this some kind of sick yolk? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Steele Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Eggy McEggface. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 16 minutes ago, The Skelpit Lug said: Eggy McEggface. Shelley McEggface, shoorely ?.............................. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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