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WORLD CUP PLAY-OFFS: the Scottish balls-up scenario. It couldn't happen, could it?!


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34 minutes ago, Donathan said:

Think we are guaranteed a seed if we beat Denmark because we will either go above Croatia in the 2nd place table (if they fail to beat Russia), or if they beat Russia they’ll win the group and we’ll be above Russia 

Surely a win vs Denmark would guarantee we’re seeded no matter what happens in other games?

Can someone post what we need elsewhere if we draw or lose?

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23 minutes ago, Cardle is Magic said:

Surely a win vs Denmark would guarantee we’re seeded no matter what happens in other games?

Can someone post what we need elsewhere if we draw or lose?

Current situation -

Seeded

Serbia - 17 (GD+8) Away to Portugal in final match
Switzerland - 15 (GD+9) Home to Bulgaria in final match
Sweden - 15 (GD+7) Away to Spain in final match
Croatia - 14 (GD+12) Home to Russia in final match
Poland - 14 (GD+9) Home to Hungary in final match
Wales - 14 (GD+5) Home to Belgium in final match

Unseeded

Scotland - 14 (GD+5) Home to Denmark in final match
Turkey - 12 (GD+1) Away to Montenegro in final match
Finland - 11 (GD+2) Home to France in final match
North Macedonia - 9 (GD+1) Home to Iceland in final match
Austria - NL
Czech Republic - NL

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30 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said:
33 minutes ago, Cardle is Magic said:
Surely a win vs Denmark would guarantee we’re seeded no matter what happens in other games?
Can someone post what we need elsewhere if we draw or lose?

Yes, win is a gaurantee

Let’s just win then. Suits me. Make it so, Stevie Clarke!

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We just have to go for the win and hope we're good enough to get it. A draw probably won't be enough. But realistically, we're going to lose, and hope we avoid Croatia.

 

I don't even know how the playoffs work. Are the teams split into groups?

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6 minutes ago, QwaarJet said:

 

 

I don't even know how the playoffs work. Are the teams split into groups?

6 seeded teams and 6 unseeded get drawn into 3 "paths" of 4, and 1 qualifies from each. 

Easier to reference the euro playoff where 1 of Scotland vs Israel and Norway vs Serbia was going to qualify. 

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28 minutes ago, Cardle is Magic said:

I understand you’re at home if seeded and away if unseeded…how do they decide who is at home for second game? Random draw like for the Euros?

There will be three paths of four teams. The winners of the first semi final in each path will be at home in the final.

 

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I expect Belgium to beat Wales, so I’d fancy us to be seeded with a draw. 
 

In today’s results we are hoping for a Russian win in Croatia at 2pm and Spain to beat Sweden by 3+ at 7:45pm.


If both of those happen then we are seeded with a point, and if even one of them happens then we have a very good chance of being seeded with a point. 

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11 minutes ago, immcinto said:

If Scotland draw 1-1 and Wales draw 0-0 then the ranking will depend on disciplinary record. Anyone know what the respective records are? Does Scotland having played 2 more games get taken into account?

https://www.foxsports.com/soccer/scotland-men-team-summary-stats?category=standard&sort=t_g&season=2022&sortOrder=desc&groupId=35

 

Looks like we are on 16 points and Wales are on 15

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We are going to draw tomorrow night then get Czech Republic at home in the semi final. We will erase the memory of Patrik Schick's wonder goal at a full Hampden.

I'm reloading the crystal ball before I predict the final but another trip to Belgrade wouldn't be the worst scenario.

We're going to the World Cup, I've decided. This current squad will make it so.

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