Arbroath v Queens

[ecto]

22 minutes ago, Skyline Drifter said:

To be fair, two of the three to post about it traveled from Edinburgh rather than Dumfries but the point stands I guess. I wouldnt travel to an away game without checking the procedure in advance these days. A lot of clubs have used the pandemic as an opportunity to discourage or phase out altogether physical tickets.

Raith were eticket only for away fans. Home fans had a booth and they did say in advance that if an away fan truly couldnt buy online having arrived they would sort it out at the home booth but they certainly didnt want to encourage it. 

Could you buy tickets on the day in person at Kilmarnock? Genuinely not sure. Certainly not at the away end but it was maybe possible at the ticket office. 

For home fans maybe. Not sure what relevance that has to away ones? It was on our OS because the writer went to look on your website and then published the info but the preview itself was late on Friday this week as our Media Officer was away. Even then thats still an online resource. I'm sure its also clear on the Arbroath website but if you dont really use the web (such people still exist and some of them are football fans) then all the online info in the world will add nothing.

Thats not particularly a criticism of Arbroath. They can do as they see fit and can hardly be expected to take out ads with the Dumfriesshire newspapers the week before (& as above not all our fans are in Dumfries). Maybe contacting the visiting club in plenty of time to get info in the programme the week before? Appreciate that having a fallback option means some people will just use it but its a surprise they will literally turn people away at the door with cash in their hands. 

I suppose its likely that fans will tend to expect what their own club does to be available elsewhere. I guess every other club in the division has either an online option or full eticketing in place so other clubs fans probably look for it / expect it more. We are still fully physical with no online option. Our fans are less likely to look, especially those who dont regularly travel away. 

Things have been different this season, surely this has been noticed 

[Fae_the_'briggs]

Dick belly aching in the match reports about QoS "taking 10 minutes at every throw-in, goal kick, etc" right from the start and playing for the draw. I can't say I noticed any excessive time-wasting in the early stages or indeed later in the game other than what is now considered "normal".  He would be better employed having a pop at his own players for woeful finishing, that's more likely to have contributed to the result rather than any perceived time-wasting by the opposition.  Complaining about time wasting only makes you look like a twat when your own team are called out for it. 

[ecto]

3 minutes ago, Fae_the_'briggs said:

Dick belly aching in the match reports about QoS "taking 10 minutes at every throw-in, goal kick, etc" right from the start and playing for the draw. I can't say I noticed any excessive time-wasting in the early stages or indeed later in the game other than what is now considered "normal".  He would be better employed having a pop at his own players for woeful finishing, that's more likely to have contributed to the result rather than any perceived time-wasting by the opposition.  Complaining about time wasting only makes you look like a twat when your own team are called out for it. 

Didn’t think the time wasting was excessive, there was no hurry from QoS, got the impression that they considered a draw a decent result, just shows how things have changed from the “we really should be winning at places like this” from a couple of seasons ago

[Hammerafc]

Didn’t think the time wasting was excessive, there was no hurry from QoS, got the impression that they considered a draw a decent result, just shows how things have changed from the “we really should be winning at places like this” from a couple of seasons ago

Other than the goalie taking an age there wasn't anything really noticeable. Probably the hangover from last week where it was shocking was still in the mind. I thought we should have won the game comfortably but we could have also lost it on the break in that crazy second half. McKenna pushing further forward and Clark going off left us vulnerable to the counter attack. It was a proper game of football though especially second half. Very frustrating to watch at the same time.

[Hammerafc]

My favourite away manager interview last season had to be Stevie Crawford after the 2 0 game in the wind. He was nearly crying at the injustice of that game being played. I think most managers are giving us the respect we have earned now. We are a championship team on merit. Some thought we were just another Brechin there to make up the numbers but we got promoted in far different circumstances by comfortably winning league 1 with a very good squad. The club is really thriving on and off the pitch currently and it's great to watch.

[Rjc-1988]

Didn’t think the time wasting was excessive, there was no hurry from QoS, got the impression that they considered a draw a decent result, just shows how things have changed from the “we really should be winning at places like this” from a couple of seasons ago

Despite being second best I thought we played really well yesterday, created loads of good chances, had some terrific fast moving counter attacks and every player gave absolutely everything for the cause. To be fair you can’t really ask for much more. Arbroath were better than us - Nouble makes a huge difference and is almost unplayable when your defensive line drops back. To counteract his brilliant hold up play you have to hold a high line otherwise he will cause mayhem (which he did in the last half hour). Best game I have seen in this league for a long time - hugely entertaining end to end stuff.

[Skyline Drifter]

1 hour ago, Fae_the_'briggs said:

Dick belly aching in the match reports about QoS "taking 10 minutes at every throw-in, goal kick, etc" right from the start and playing for the draw. I can't say I noticed any excessive time-wasting in the early stages or indeed later in the game other than what is now considered "normal". 

Yeah I thought that was a little odd. In the last 10 mins Sol was holding on to the ball a little longer than normal. I think that was understandable and, whilst we had a couple of good opportunities to win, it was also a good point in the circumstances. Otherwise I saw nothing, certainly not in the first half, as Dick pointedly referred to in his post match interview.

[Another Edin Doonhamer]

Replying to Skyline Drifter, I didn't see the match preview for the Killie game, so didn't have a ticket. Tickets were available at the ticket window at the 'hotel end' of the ground.

I did actually look at Queens website on Friday afternoon, but what with watching the Moldova v Scotland game on TV then dashing off to watch Edinburgh City v Stranraer at Ainslie Park, gthen watching the highlightsof Ireland v Portugal when I got home I didn't rteally think about it.

An early start, leaving home at 0830 to get the train , I didn't have time to even think about it again.

In my 19 previous visits, the first 2, in 1970(2069) and 1975(1441) were the only bigger

crowds than yesterday.

[Seeker]

59 minutes ago, Hammerafc said:

Other than the goalie taking an age there wasn't anything really noticeable. Probably the hangover from last week where it was shocking was still in the mind. I thought we should have won the game comfortably but we could have also lost it on the break in that crazy second half. McKenna pushing further forward and Clark going off left us vulnerable to the counter attack. It was a proper game of football though especially second half. Very frustrating to watch at the same time.
 

Referee had a word with him about the time he was taking.

[QOSQOS]

Our keeper only slowed it down during the (short) period when we were ahead, which every keeper does in that position. Once the equaliser went in, he was getting the ball back into play asap, including going long for swift counter-attacks.

It was interesting first half that every goal kick was played short, which was obviously pre-planned. Always makes me nervous, I know Liverpool and Real Madrid play this way, but our defenders aren’t quite as capable or confident as Liverpool, to put it mildly.

 

[Fae_the_'briggs]

46 minutes ago, Another Edin Doonhamer said:

Replying to Skyline Drifter, I didn't see the match preview for the Killie game, so didn't have a ticket. Tickets were available at the ticket window at the 'hotel end' of the ground.

I did actually look at Queens website on Friday afternoon, but what with watching the Moldova v Scotland game on TV then dashing off to watch Edinburgh City v Stranraer at Ainslie Park, gthen watching the highlightsof Ireland v Portugal when I got home I didn't rteally think about it.

An early start, leaving home at 0830 to get the train , I didn't have time to even think about it again.

In my 19 previous visits, the first 2, in 1970(2069) and 1975(1441) were the only bigger crowds than yesterday.

You're not a big fan of football then? 

 

And in reply to an earlier Arbroath poster who said these ticketing arrangements have coincided with the biggest home support in decades, I would suggest your style of football, league position at the end of last season and into this one, results so far, and what appears to be a good rapport between players, club and support owe more to the increase in home crowd numbers than any ticketing arrangement. I'm fairly sure you could have stayed completely cash only and the crowds would still have increased. 

[Lichtielegend]

Those short goal kicks are just asking for trouble. Dunfermline were doing it too a few weeks back.

It ends up being passed about the back four until one of them just lump it up.

 

Overall, it feels a bit like 2 points dropped but it could have been worse with the gaps we left for counter attacks.

The last 2 results have been disappointing but the performances have had plenty of positives. I don't agree with the clamour for McKenna to play upfront, while he's producing goals and assists from midfield. A lot of the chances Dowds and Donnelly have missed wouldn't necessarily have fallen to McKenna had he been playing upfront. I also think Dowds, finishing aside, has done a pretty good job leading the line (something that will become extremely important in a post-Nouble world).

 

We missed Clark in the 2nd half. While I think he's still raw and his use of the ball can be a bit sloppy, he covers a lot of ground and wins a lot of challenges. I don't think Queen's would have had so many breakaway opportunities if he didn't get hooked. 

 

 

 

[afc_36_0]

Find it weird fans are ranting about online tickets only and they dont have access to social media/online ticket info when they’re posting on an online football forum but hey ho

[timlichtie]

Find it weird fans are ranting about online ticket only and they dont have access to social media/online ticket info when there posting on an online football forum but hey ho

It’s an outrage that fans who don’t have access to the internet can’t defend themselves against that accusation.

[Seeker]

17 minutes ago, afc_36_0 said:

Find it weird fans are ranting about online ticket only and they dont have access to social media/online ticket info when there posting on an online football forum but hey ho

It seems we literally turned away fans that had cash in their hand. No proof of this of course but I believe it could be about two thousand (very) odd away fans. The club have taken their details and will make sure letters are sent out at the next game informing them of all relevant details. Hope this appeases the masses!

[Tattie36]

Personally I think the ticketing situation is one of the very few things we don’t have quite right at the moment.

Utterly ridiculous and counter productive not to have a way for fans, home or away, to buy tickets at the ground. How difficult would it be to have someone at the wee window by the players entrance for half an hour with a stack of print outs and a tin of change?

We have to get as many fans to games as possible.

[queenslad]

It's not every one who can make early decisions on whether they can attend matches at a given time, people have others things on that takes priority - partner, children, work - all of which may be planned for a saturday but when they finish earlier than expected or plans you have made fall through you may decide to go to a match. Also the situation of meeting a friend in pub, up town and suggesting they come along to a match. This applies to home or away fans.

I can see the appeal in selling tickets earlier in the week, then the weather turns rough on a saturday lunchtime and you decide not to go - money in the bag for the club.

What happens if you purchase a ticket for a game that does not take place? Do you get your money back or is it valid for when the fixture takes place and what happens if you cannot make it? This will become a factor as the winter weather takes a turn for the worse.

I know many people who don't have smart phones and who wouldn't have a clue how to purchase a online ticket

 

[Hammerafc]

You can buy a ticket all the way up to kick off so you don't need to plan early. I agree we should have a cash gate in operation on match day for both home and away fans or a small ticket booth. It's not that difficult to get ticket information though even if your not online.

[Seeker]

At QOS you queue to buy a ticket in a room where people are socialising, eating and drinking with little room to socially distance.

 This is not ideal either. There is no option to buy online.

Swings and roundabouts.

Edited November 14, 2021 by Seeker

[JoseMarooniho]

You're not a big fan of football then? 
 
And in reply to an earlier Arbroath poster who said these ticketing arrangements have coincided with the biggest home support in decades, I would suggest your style of football, league position at the end of last season and into this one, results so far, and what appears to be a good rapport between players, club and support owe more to the increase in home crowd numbers than any ticketing arrangement. I'm fairly sure you could have stayed completely cash only and the crowds would still have increased. 

I wasn’t suggesting online ticketing had attracted additional supporters rather that numbers were bearing up incredibly well despite the change.