Terry_Tibbs Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Sir David Amess MP was one of the good guys. He was rightly mocked, at the time, for being fooled by Chris Morris but the CAKE episode revealed him as an MP with a genuine concern for his constituents. One of the few to follow through with their words. No wonder he never made it into cabinet. He'll be remembered as a staunch defender of civil liberties and a dedicated public servant.. Sadly, as a result of this incident it will become increasingly difficult to have meaningful contact with our elected representatives. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throbber Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 So we have an African Jew wearing a hoody? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 13 hours ago, HeartsOfficialMoaner said: On radio it said it was a machete. Attacking an old guy with a machete. Horrible cnut. Perfectly put. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDoddyKane Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 aye, scumbag 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eez-eh Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 9 hours ago, Distant Doonhamer said: An absolutely dreadful crime. Some of the stuff on this thread is truly desperate stuff. @Bishop Briggsupvoting this as if he isn’t complicit in how this thread has turned out is quite something. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Imagine being a tory councillor in Cowdenbeath. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 I would just like to point out - I openly marked @Bishop Briggs card a couple of years ago. It was pointed out he's a couple of arguments away from wearing another humans skin. Good luck to each and every one of you who crossed his path on this topic. Up the 'ra. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlipperyP Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 16 minutes ago, Melanius Mullarkey said: Imagine being a tory councillor in Cowdenbeath. He has a look of the C'Beath Loyal about him. Place as changed, used to be Communist hotbed in the day. Yes, it's world news, even Al Jazeera did a piece on the RED town. https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2014/11/9/uk-communists-and-the-fall-of-the-berlin-wall 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladdin Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 3 hours ago, Terry_Tibbs said: He'll be remembered as a staunch defender of civil liberties and a dedicated public servant. Whilst it's terrible that he was murdered, he tried to ban abortion outright and was opposed to LGBT rights. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 3 hours ago, Terry_Tibbs said: Sir David Amess MP was......an MP with a genuine concern for his constituents. Well, maybe some of them. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Benjamin_Nevis Posted October 16, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2021 Anyone looking at his voting record two days ago would probably have correctly filed him away in the "typical Tory right wing c**t" box. He doesn't suddenly become a great guy because of yesterday. A horrible and undeserved way thing to happen of course, but I won't be shedding any tears or displaying any faux sympathy for a guy who consistently voted to keep the rich rich, the poor skint, was against tenants' rights, wanted a ban on abortion and was opposed to LGBT rights. 27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throbber Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 A shame he didn’t have this suit of armour on him yesterday. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Mahelp Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 19 minutes ago, Day of the Lords said: Anyone looking at his voting record two days ago would probably have correctly filed him away in the "typical Tory right wing c**t" box. He doesn't suddenly become a great guy because of yesterday. A horrible and undeserved way thing to happen of course, but I won't be shedding any tears or displaying any faux sympathy for a guy who consistently voted to keep the rich rich, the poor skint, was against tenants' rights, wanted a ban on abortion and was opposed to LGBT rights. I actually have family who lived in his constituency. It's a very weird part of the world (not in a bad way, I actually like it down there). Whereas much of Southend is a run down chav infested shitehole, Southend west incorporates Leigh on Sea and Westcliff, which are very affluent areas. We talked politics once at a family gathering and I asked my cousin why he voted Tory. He just looked at me and said 'what else is there ?'. He didn't mean it in a bad way, he just grew up in an area where he knew hardly anyone who would consider voting for anyone that wasn't Tory. Amess had to us what seems like a pretty shaky record. He was unashamedly right wing in his voting habits, but people would have voted for him even if he'd been eating babies. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Blaming political rhetoric as the encitement behind events such as this is just so ridiculous, especially when most of us know that it's 99% pantomime. Politics in this country has become like the weigh in press event at a boxing match, the American Wrestling or the alleged "hatred" between old firm players, ie, it's made up and staged nonsense to create publicity or provide a story where none exist. We all know that they're mates with each other, went to UNI or public school together and generally have a "bond" which goes way beyond who they're representing or who's paying them. It really is pathetic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, Bob Mahelp said: I actually have family who lived in his constituency. It's a very weird part of the world (not in a bad way, I actually like it down there). Whereas much of Southend is a run down chav infested shitehole, Southend west incorporates Leigh on Sea and Westcliff, which are very affluent areas. We talked politics once at a family gathering and I asked my cousin why he voted Tory. He just looked at me and said 'what else is there ?'. He didn't mean it in a bad way, he just grew up in an area where he knew hardly anyone who would consider voting for anyone that wasn't Tory. Amess had to us what seems like a pretty shaky record. He was unashamedly right wing in his voting habits, but people would have voted for him even if he'd been eating babies. Sadly I think that’s the case with a lot of Tory voters in England. They don’t seem to ‘know any better’ other than to vote for them. It’s just the known thing to do. Whereas in Scotland, Wales and NI, Tory voters seem to have more reason to do so, what with the alternative being nationalist/republican parties. You don’t have that option in England. It’s them or Kier Starmer 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 11 minutes ago, WATTOO said: Blaming political rhetoric as the encitement behind events such as this is just so ridiculous, especially when most of us know that it's 99% pantomime. Politics in this country has become like the weigh in press event at a boxing match, the American Wrestling or the alleged "hatred" between old firm players, ie, it's made up and staged nonsense to create publicity or provide a story where none exist. We all know that they're mates with each other, went to UNI or public school together and generally have a "bond" which goes way beyond who they're representing or who's paying them. It really is pathetic. It really is pathetic, but unfortunately that 1%, (and I think it's much higher than that) can still wreak havoc, whenever they bloody well feel like it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 15 minutes ago, WATTOO said: Blaming political rhetoric as the encitement behind events such as this is just so ridiculous, especially when most of us know that it's 99% pantomime. This belief/attitude is why the country is so fucked. It's not a pantomime. 300-400 right wing arseholes supported by a couple of thousand fellow travellers in the background vote for benefit cuts and sanctions and the direct result is death for tens of thousands and misery for millions. Politicians need to be understood to be culpable for their actions. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 28 minutes ago, Detournement said: This belief/attitude is why the country is so fucked. It's not a pantomime. 300-400 right wing arseholes supported by a couple of thousand fellow travellers in the background vote for benefit cuts and sanctions and the direct result is death for tens of thousands and misery for millions. Politicians need to be understood to be culpable for their actions. That's a democracy for you. These people are voted in to power (using our voting system) by the majority of those who choose to vote, so they're only doing their bidding as it were. Apart from that, it all becomes a bit clouded when the leader of the so called "party of the working classes" is more right wing than many of his Conservative party opposition. Over and above all this and taking Scotland as an example, we have many of those people who have "had their benefits cut" and been "sanctioned" etc who have actually voted and publicly support the party responsible, due to nothing other than the Football team that they support. While we have situations like that, then I'm afraid there's really little hope. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
energyzone Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 I actually have family who lived in his constituency. It's a very weird part of the world (not in a bad way, I actually like it down there). Whereas much of Southend is a run down chav infested shitehole, Southend west incorporates Leigh on Sea and Westcliff, which are very affluent areas. We talked politics once at a family gathering and I asked my cousin why he voted Tory. He just looked at me and said 'what else is there ?'. He didn't mean it in a bad way, he just grew up in an area where he knew hardly anyone who would consider voting for anyone that wasn't Tory. Amess had to us what seems like a pretty shaky record. He was unashamedly right wing in his voting habits, but people would have voted for him even if he'd been eating babies. The voting habits/records are misleading. These are used pretty much weekly by the opposition at Westminster to gain political points but have no grounding in legislation or legitimacy. For example Labour can bring forward a motion each week during a day debate to say they condemn the government's record on austerity and put forward a bland motion to, for example, increase nurses pay, without having to detail how it should be paid for, how much they should be given or provide a cost analysis etc. This will then go to a vote which the Conservatives will obviously vote against and the motion will be defeated. The opposition and political activists or commentators can then later say that a random Tory MP voted against awarding nurses a pay rise and score a political point, knowing full well that they never had the power or expectation that the vote would go through. Ultimately voting records are used as a political weapon but aren't a true indication of the views or work of an individual MP. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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