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Tinfoil hat time, I'm wondering if winning our group here is actually a good thing or not.

 

This is the nations league before Euro 2024. Generally for Euros, you're all but guaranteed a playoff spot just by being in league B.

 

The next one after this is the world cup 2026 nations league. Assuming the current format is retained (There are 16 spots rather than 13, so they may offer more playoff spots or still have 12 teams but just do one-off ties rather than 4 team playoffs) you MUST be a UNL group winner and almost certainly for league A or league B.

 

That being the case, it's easier to win a group in league B. So really we should finish 2nd here rather than win the group.

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1 hour ago, Donathan said:

Tinfoil hat time, I'm wondering if winning our group here is actually a good thing or not.

This is the nations league before Euro 2024. Generally for Euros, you're all but guaranteed a playoff spot just by being in league B.

The next one after this is the world cup 2026 nations league. Assuming the current format is retained (There are 16 spots rather than 13, so they may offer more playoff spots or still have 12 teams but just do one-off ties rather than 4 team playoffs) you MUST be a UNL group winner and almost certainly for league A or league B.

That being the case, it's easier to win a group in league B. So really we should finish 2nd here rather than win the group.

Before the Nations League, we couldn't even manage to line up friendlies against sides to improve our World Ranking and seeding. That kind of gamesmanship is well beyond us.

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Tinfoil hat time, I'm wondering if winning our group here is actually a good thing or not.
 
This is the nations league before Euro 2024. Generally for Euros, you're all but guaranteed a playoff spot just by being in league B.
 
The next one after this is the world cup 2026 nations league. Assuming the current format is retained (There are 16 spots rather than 13, so they may offer more playoff spots or still have 12 teams but just do one-off ties rather than 4 team playoffs) you MUST be a UNL group winner and almost certainly for league A or league B.
 
That being the case, it's easier to win a group in league B. So really we should finish 2nd here rather than win the group.

Winning our group gets us into Pot 2 for the Euros qualifying and subsequently guarantees it for World Cup qualifying too. That's more important than a slightly increased chance of a play-off, especially when we could easily get a tough Nations League group next time.
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Forgot about this draw until the email from the supporters club mentioned that it's next Thursday at 5pm.

Ukraine with the potential to be the new Israel for us and play them 3 times in 2022.

   
   
   
   
   
   
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Forgot about this draw until the email from the supporters club mentioned that it's next Thursday at 5pm.
Ukraine with the potential to be the new Israel for us and play them 3 times in 2022.
   
   
   
   
   
   
It's also quite likely that we draw Israel yet again. [emoji24]
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Iceland and Armenia are no brainers IMO. 
 

Ireland wouldn’t be terrible to draw, but they are on an upswing at the moment. Kenny has them playing a wee bit. We’d still handle them I think, but they have some players coming through.

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Mock draw

 

Group B1.

1. Bosnia and Herzegovina

2. Finland

3. Serbia

4. Armenia

Group B2.

1. Sweden

2. Russia

3. Romania

4. Albania

Group B3.

1. Iceland

2. Scotland

3. Israel

4. Montenegro

Group B4.

1. Ukraine

2. Norway

3. Republic of Ireland

4. Slovenia

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Its an absolute certainty we'll get Israel again. You always get who you want t o avoid. At least we know we can win it.
In fairness, it wouldn't be a bad draw. Ireland have been improving recently and Serbia just beat Portugal in their own back yard to qualify for the World Cup. If it wasn't for all the recent draws against Israel, most people here would want them.
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6 minutes ago, Marten said:
13 minutes ago, Jambomo said:
Its an absolute certainty we'll get Israel again. You always get who you want t o avoid. At least we know we can win it.

In fairness, it wouldn't be a bad draw. Ireland have been improving recently and Serbia just beat Portugal in their own back yard to qualify for the World Cup. If it wasn't for all the recent draws against Israel, most people here would want them.

I honestly think it’s just because we have played them so often. A change would be good 🤣

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