craigkillie Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 It's the balance between definitely losing players players the Denmark game, and perhaps reducing our chances of being seeded for the play-offs, or having those players for the Denmark game but running the risk of losing them for one of the play-off games.I'd be asking Robertson, McGinn, Gilmour, Adams and Patterson to take the cards on Friday. O'Donnell might have started against Denmark anyway and if there was ever a game where more of lump of a centre-back rather than Tierney was useful then it's the Denmark one. Then we can just stick McTominay back in midfield and bring in McLean for Gilmour and McGinn. Dykes will be back too so we can lose Adams. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General dissaray Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 1 minute ago, AsimButtHitsASix said: If ye say so Rorschach Don't even know what that means 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 1 hour ago, AsimButtHitsASix said: No it's not. It's one game. Against Moldova. Dykes is out but we have three options upfront which should be enough to beat Moldova. If one or more of our strikers get injured we can call up others. We can also play with one upfront and Turnbull, Ferguson or McGinn would do a good job behind them. McTominay has played up front before for Man U as a target man and will almost certainly be good enough to body some Transnistrian jobbers if we want. Not much reason to drag along someone who wont get any game time. I'm with you on the McTominay-for-centre-forward suggestion. Why not? He is familiar with the position and most of our attacking endeavours involve hoofball up to Dykes in the hope inrushing midfielders gobble up the (knockdown) scraps. McTominay might even be bigger and stronger than Dykes, which is the whole idea of hoofball in the first place. Big brawny b*****ds rummaging up defenders. Moreover, since McTominay seems to get a starting berth every time, regardless of how good or bad he has been in the previous match (Faroes?) we might as well shove him up front and free up a valuable position elsewhere in the team. Playing a debutant (Brown) in a match of this importance is surely unwise. And if big Scott can score from two yards out, without even knowing what he's doing, he surely has luck on his side. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velo army Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 33 minutes ago, AsimButtHitsASix said: If ye say so Rorschach He's not locked in here with us etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General dissaray Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 24 minutes ago, velo army said: He's not locked in here with us etc. Still haven't a clue what he is talking about 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Tony and Dembele were at Peterborough together and played absolutely fantastic together Peterborough chairman wouldn't give Dembele a move when he requested one at the start off the season,were a host off EPL players including Brentford were keen on him Dembele will no doubt join a bigger team on a bosman in January and then the chairman arm will be forced to accept a bid for him Aye just stick him up cos he is 6.1,not because he has played there for St Mirren before and can link it up middle to front and hold it up and win flick ons exactly what Dykes does And let us use the long ball again as the outball tiring the Moldova players going back and forward for it like the Serbia game But aye okay just cos he is 6.1 if that floats your boat Adams and Brown will start the game that is a fact players with pace are needed against a team that camps 10 men behind the ball and parks the busKenny McLean never once played as a striker in any Saints game I watched and I don't miss many. He is also one of the least physical / combative players in our squad. His game is all finesse so no idea where you have seen him playing as a physical, hold up target man ??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General dissaray Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: 1 hour ago, General dissaray said: Tony and Dembele were at Peterborough together and played absolutely fantastic together Peterborough chairman wouldn't give Dembele a move when he requested one at the start off the season,were a host off EPL players including Brentford were keen on him Dembele will no doubt join a bigger team on a bosman in January and then the chairman arm will be forced to accept a bid for him Aye just stick him up cos he is 6.1,not because he has played there for St Mirren before and can link it up middle to front and hold it up and win flick ons exactly what Dykes does And let us use the long ball again as the outball tiring the Moldova players going back and forward for it like the Serbia game But aye okay just cos he is 6.1 if that floats your boat Adams and Brown will start the game that is a fact players with pace are needed against a team that camps 10 men behind the ball and parks the bus Kenny McLean never once played as a striker in any Saints game I watched and I don't miss many. He is also one of the least physical / combative players in our squad. His game is all finesse so no idea where you have seen him playing as a physical, hold up target man ??? Yes he did in 2015 you must have mist them,some people just want to argue but only one person gave another alternative the person that said McSauce up front McLean scored against Dundee in 3 1 game in 2014 playing up front as well Edited November 10, 2021 by General dissaray 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General dissaray Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 26 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: 2 hours ago, General dissaray said: Tony and Dembele were at Peterborough together and played absolutely fantastic together Peterborough chairman wouldn't give Dembele a move when he requested one at the start off the season,were a host off EPL players including Brentford were keen on him Dembele will no doubt join a bigger team on a bosman in January and then the chairman arm will be forced to accept a bid for him Aye just stick him up cos he is 6.1,not because he has played there for St Mirren before and can link it up middle to front and hold it up and win flick ons exactly what Dykes does And let us use the long ball again as the outball tiring the Moldova players going back and forward for it like the Serbia game But aye okay just cos he is 6.1 if that floats your boat Adams and Brown will start the game that is a fact players with pace are needed against a team that camps 10 men behind the ball and parks the bus Kenny McLean never once played as a striker in any Saints game I watched and I don't miss many. He is also one of the least physical / combative players in our squad. His game is all finesse so no idea where you have seen him playing as a physical, hold up target man ??? https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/31094119 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Fratelli said: Hope we go full Mourinho 2010 with this one (without the subsequent punishment) both for the sake of the playoffs and my Bet365 account. Would it be worth resting these guys against Denmark if we win against Moldova? It’s a question of whether you go all out to play at home but risk the availability of key guys. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General dissaray Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, General dissaray said: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/31094119 Loads off these about McLean playing up front but aye everybody else is wrong just cos you go to the odd game all the reporters are wrong I'm wrong to for clearly remembering it What a page man what a page 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergie's no1 fan Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 (edited) More of a 3-6-1 StMirren style than 3-4-3. Armstrong and McGinn in behind Adams. McMuffin and KT providing support from defence as well. Pretty attacking team, even if there is only 1 recognised striker in the line up. Edited to add, Armstrong is the only question mark for me. He hasn't been a regular starter under Clarke, could even have Gilmour pushed up further and McLean starting, or McLean and McGinn in behind Adams. Edited November 10, 2021 by sergie's no1 fan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing.McCrosby Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 (edited) In fairness I dont think siriki dembele would have been a bad shout for this squad. If he even wants to play for us that is. Were severely lacking in forward opinions, wouldn't see the harm in having the guy in the squad and see how he does. Edited November 10, 2021 by BingMcCrosby 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GAD Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Billy Jean King said: 2 hours ago, General dissaray said: Tony and Dembele were at Peterborough together and played absolutely fantastic together Peterborough chairman wouldn't give Dembele a move when he requested one at the start off the season,were a host off EPL players including Brentford were keen on him Dembele will no doubt join a bigger team on a bosman in January and then the chairman arm will be forced to accept a bid for him Aye just stick him up cos he is 6.1,not because he has played there for St Mirren before and can link it up middle to front and hold it up and win flick ons exactly what Dykes does And let us use the long ball again as the outball tiring the Moldova players going back and forward for it like the Serbia game But aye okay just cos he is 6.1 if that floats your boat Adams and Brown will start the game that is a fact players with pace are needed against a team that camps 10 men behind the ball and parks the bus Kenny McLean never once played as a striker in any Saints game I watched and I don't miss many. He is also one of the least physical / combative players in our squad. His game is all finesse so no idea where you have seen him playing as a physical, hold up target man ??? He did to be fair, in the disastrous Tommy Craig season, and played it pretty well, scoring about 7 goals before we sold him to Aberdeen. He was playing there because the other options were Ball and Marwood, so it wasn't exactly great times. Wouldn't blame you for erasing that whole season from memory. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergie's no1 fan Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 1 minute ago, GAD said: He did to be fair, in the disastrous Tommy Craig season, and played it pretty well, scoring about 7 goals before we sold him to Aberdeen. He was playing there because the other options were Ball and Marwood, so it wasn't exactly great times. Wouldn't blame you for erasing that whole season from memory. Aye, he was actually very effective but that was a shitfest of a season. Summed up when we sold him and replaced him with Arquin, Ross County replaced Arquin with Liam Boyce . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eez-eh Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Fratelli said: Hope we go full Mourinho 2010 with this one (without the subsequent punishment) both for the sake of the playoffs and my Bet365 account. UEFA carrying suspensions over into play-offs is absolute wee guy behaviour. 2 bookings in 10 games is f**k all. What’s actually unfair though is that half of the groups have 2 fewer games than us. It isn’t even a level playing field for all the play-off teams. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scumjob Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 (edited) Love how part of the justification for McLean up top is so that we can play long ball. Aye, playing one of the worst teams in Europe and we need to resort to route one with a make shift striker who played half a season there 6 years ago. You know or we could try and actually play a bit with actual attacking players like Brown and Adams. Edited November 10, 2021 by Scumjob 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacky1990 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 2 hours ago, General dissaray said: Adams and Brown will start the game that is a fact players with pace are needed against a team that camps 10 men behind the ball and parks the bus Adams and Brown starting is an opinion. An opinion many, including myself, share. But its an opinion. Know the difference between opinion and fact. Also, if Moldova park the bus and get 10 men behind the ball and kill space, genuine pace over 40-50m is irrelevant because they wont have space to run into. Its movement and control in tight areas you need in games like that, plus having someone with the ability to shoot from range. As an aside, I assume English isnt your first language? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacky1990 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Scumjob said: Love how part of the justification for McLean up top is so that we can play long ball. Aye, playing one of the worst teams in Europe and we need to resort to route one with a make shift striker who played half a season there 6 years ago. You know or we could try and actually play a bit with actual attacking players like Brown and Adams. Its the justification of McTominay as well because we MUST have a 6 ft+ guy in the box at all times. Imagine, you know, playing players in their actual positions on the assumption that those players playing in their positions are better than the Moldovan players playing in their positions. Some folk on here (one in particular) are absolutely the types to be giving themselves a stroke shouting 4-4-fuckin-2 at any given point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordopolis Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 As an aside, I assume English isnt your first language?Says the guy who doesn't know how to use apostrophes... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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