Shuggie_Murray7 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Was Fraser not hounded out by the County boo boys in his final season with them? I seem to recall County fans here being less than complimentary about him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAD Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 20 minutes ago, Shuggie_Murray7 said: Was Fraser not hounded out by the County boo boys in his final season with them? I seem to recall County fans here being less than complimentary about him. When we signed him our thread was absolutely chock full of county fans telling us how shite he is and what an awful signing he'd be. Considering he's one of the first names on the teamsheet for us, would walk into their team, and seems to score everytime he's back in Dingwall you can see why it's a bit of a sore point. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spam_Valley Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 5 hours ago, djchapsticks said: Erhahon suffers from being one of our youth players so is held to higher standard by some sections of the support. The lad is very talented indeed and keeps getting better and yet some folk seen to still dislike him. I think it’s the fact we know he’s got the talent but he rarely shows it consistently. His lack of effort in some games is a real frustration. if he continues to play the way he is at the moment, he won’t have any supporter on his back. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackie The Staggie Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 9 minutes ago, GAD said: When we signed him our thread was absolutely chock full of county fans telling us how shite he is and what an awful signing he'd be. Considering he's one of the first names on the teamsheet for us, would walk into their team, and seems to score everytime he's back in Dingwall you can see why it's a bit of a sore point. In his last season, Fraser was horrific for us and it had looked like he was starting to look like a player more suited to a Championship team, however it looks like a change of scenery was needed to capture that form he showed when he was first with us. There is absolutely no issue with him celebrating that goal at all, in fact I would have preferred it if he ran towards were our board and directors were, removed his shirt showing a "Show Racism a Red Card" t-shirt underneath all will staring direct at MacKay.....maybe someone will before we sack him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coventry Saint Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 15 minutes ago, Spam_Valley said: I think it’s the fact we know he’s got the talent but he rarely shows it consistently. His lack of effort in some games is a real frustration. if he continues to play the way he is at the moment, he won’t have any supporter on his back. Tend to agree. Though we must all be careful not to equate running around a lot with doing well (I'm not saying that's what you're doing here), the visibly increased effort we've seen from EE over the past three games has been a welcome sight. I suspect Power is the partner he's needed for a while now, and I think the pair of them have the makings of a very good partnership for us. As much as the 3-6-1 is getting the most out of Brophy and McGrath, I dare say it also suits Ethan as well because he has a couple of willing runners right in front of him for those neat forward passes that he's very capable of playing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrison Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 2 hours ago, Rcfc fan said: Take a look at Liam boyce’s celebration , or lack of against county a few weeks ago pure class act and a mark of respect to a club that treated him well and gave a platform for a bigger move That's a completely different situation. Boyce left because there's no way we could have possibly kept hold of him. We let Fraser go (IIRC), so I don't see any reason for him to hold back against us. What a thing to get worked up about. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staggy1929 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Marcus Fraser helped us win our only major trophy in our history he can celebrate how he wants against us he's earned that. Maybe we should be more concerned with why none of our players can defend well enough to stop him scoring against us and directing our displeasure at that? I said at the time a squad filled with loan players won't be up to it. Winless with piss poor attendances and no recognised goal scorer in the team. Surely the Malky defenders are running out of excuses. Baldwin and Maynard-Brewer for the third goal by the way, wow. Worst I've seen, I'd bring back Jordi Balk and Tim Dreesen over this lot. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houston_bud Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 I find the no celebrating thing a bit trite. It might stick in your craw if they were trying to get it right up you but players should be free to celebrate if they score. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrie Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Fraser is a weird one. He was great to begin with, then was horrific at CB, then got put back to RB and had decent games here and there but never ever looked like the player he once was. A section of our fans gave him pelters on a regular basis and I don't think he has a lot of time for our fans due to this. Him leaving isn't like Boyce, where nobody really wanted him to go. I think virtually all of us realized Fraser's time was done up here but I for one wish him well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insaintee Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 On 18/10/2021 at 09:22, Rcfc fan said: Take a look at Liam boyce’s celebration , or lack of against county a few weeks ago pure class act and a mark of respect to a club that treated him well and gave a platform for a bigger move Is that the one where he turns to the county fans and makes crying gestures to show how sorry he is to have scored against his old club 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 (edited) On 18/10/2021 at 09:24, Ric said: Yeah, you are absolutely at it. If Fraser celebrating in front of his own fans, some distance from the County fans, and in turn a celebration that didn't happen until he was running away from County fans, is what has boiled your piss then I'm guessing you are easily riled. Yup, not celebating a goal is one of these new things that an old fogey like me doesn't like although I do remember Denis Law doing similar back in the 70s when he scored for City against United the day they (United) were relegated, so maybe it's not that new. Edited October 19, 2021 by btb 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AW saint Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Fraser like many players has thrived in a new team. He has been a stand out for us. Long may it continue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staggy1929 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 5 hours ago, Insaintee said: Is that the one where he turns to the county fans and makes crying gestures to show how sorry he is to have scored against his old club Yeah, There was a lot more to it than just it being against his old club though. A well known and respected County fan had just passed away and Boyce was aware of that and that definitely played a part in his apologetic reaction to scoring. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girth Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Saw the highlights...County look horrendous. How come Malkolini hasn't been punted yet? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forfinn Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 20 minutes ago, Girth said: Saw the highlights...County look horrendous. How come Malkolini hasn't been punted yet? A number of factors, including, but not limited to: it's a long-term project high player turnover in the summer pre-season disrupted by covid tough opening fixtures we're not getting routinely hammered the chairman stuck his neck out on a controversial appointment However, there's no getting away from the fact this is our worst ever start to a league campaign. Ross County managers have been sacked for much less. Unless we see a marked improvement in the next two games, hopefully that'll be an end to Mackay's sorry tenure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girth Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 10 minutes ago, Forfinn said: A number of factors, including, but not limited to: it's a long-term project high player turnover in the summer pre-season disrupted by covid tough opening fixtures we're not getting routinely hammered the chairman stuck his neck out on a controversial appointment However, there's no getting away from the fact this is our worst ever start to a league campaign. Ross County managers have been sacked for much less. Unless we see a marked improvement in the next two games, hopefully that'll be an end to Mackay's sorry tenure. Are fans staying away due to his appointment too? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forfinn Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, Girth said: Are fans staying away due to his appointment too? I know some people are (me included). Outside of social media, the Hearts game seemed particularly sparsely attended. I looked up the figures and it was 500 down compared to other games against them in recent seasons. I've just had a look at the St Mirren attendance and it's broadly comparable with previous seasons. Maybe a sign the hardcore support is consistent, but fewer less committed fans who would normally go to the big games are bothering. Probably too small a sample size to make such a sweeping generalisation though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 27 minutes ago, Forfinn said: However, there's no getting away from the fact this is our worst ever start to a league campaign. I assume you mean a top-league campaign. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forfinn Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 20 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said: I assume you mean a top-league campaign. Nope, I mean since we joined the SFL in 1994. It's hard to imagine having had a worse start in the Highland League, but no one (to my knowledge) has checked further back. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, Forfinn said: Nope, I mean since we joined the SFL in 1994. It's hard to imagine having had a worse start in the Highland League, but no one (to my knowledge) has checked further back. I asked Jimmy Shaker in the HL thread a few weeks back about the start to the 86-87 season (when County finished bottom) and County were on the same points this season after 8 games, but had a far worse GD in 86-87. On 08/10/2021 at 13:46, Jimmy Shaker said: County's number from the opening months of the 1986/87 season were... P8, W1, L7, GF 8, GA 33, Pts 3. Their first win of the season came in their third game, against Deveronvale at Victoria Park. Their second league win came in game 15 at Clachnacuddin, with all the other games inbetween going down as defeats. They lost to every side in the league that season at least once, with the exception of Clach who they took four (count 'em!) point off. P15, W2, L13, GF 15, GA 51, Pts 6. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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