COP26 Glasgow 31st OCT to 12th NOV

[PWL]

The one day it will probably kick off and our work have closed the office due to staff safety concerns so I won't have a grandstand view. 

[Inanimate Carbon Rod]

8 minutes ago, PWL said:

The one day it will probably kick off and our work have closed the office due to staff safety concerns so I won't have a grandstand view. 

Theres another big event tomorrow too.

[strichener]

2 hours ago, KingRocketman II said:

you strike me as someone who spends their entire life in '"shitholes'....

 

 

No, I avoid Glasgow whenever possible ta.

[Karpaty Lviv]

What time is it all kicking off today? 

[Have some faith in Magic]

11:00 or 11:30 in Kelvingrove then  a march. I think today is mainly youngsters and children so should be peaceful unless the police start getting arsey. 

 

Tomorrow they were expecting 100,000 but it is meant to be absolutely pishing it down all day so would imagine the numbers will be down quite a bit.  

Edited November 5, 2021 by Have some faith in Magic

[KingRocketman II]

2 hours ago, strichener said:

No, I avoid Glasgow whenever possible ta.

ha aye am sure you do

[Andy Dufresne]

That’s the March hit the city centre,Netflix it is this afternoon then.

[Benjamin_Nevis]

1 minute ago, Andy Dufresne said:

That’s the March hit the city centre,Netflix it is this afternoon then.

High recommend The Shawshank Redemption btw 

[101]

3 hours ago, Have some faith in Magic said:

11:00 or 11:30 in Kelvingrove then  a march. I think today is mainly youngsters and children so should be peaceful unless the police start getting arsey. 

 

Tomorrow they were expecting 100,000 but it is meant to be absolutely pishing it down all day so would imagine the numbers will be down quite a bit.  

Meant to be minging weather tomorrow so might put a few folk off, that said it looks pretty busy in Glasgow today, the Glasgow times have a video from an elevated position that has protestors as far as the eye can see.

[thisal]

7 hours ago, strichener said:

Glasgow is a shithole too far even for the protesters.

f**k off Anas

[Baxter Parp]

[sophia]

I see that sub Sheridan chappie has declared "we've started a movement that is a climate change movement, it's a worker's movement".

That's nice.

 

[DeeTillEhDeh]

Just waiting for the usual claims about attendance.

Organisers - 100,000
Police - 5,000
Reality - 15-20,000

[Baxter Parp]

[dirty dingus]

This rain can GTF. I'll be doing the Tennent's Swagger, start at the front visit a few pubs on route come in with the stragglers.  

[vikingTON]

2 hours ago, dirty dingus said:

This rain can GTF. I'll be doing the Tennent's Swagger, start at the front visit a few pubs on route come in with the stragglers.  

The rain is natural punishment for attending a shan climate march when there are football games on.  

Edited November 6, 2021 by vikingTON

[Saltire]

On 03/11/2021 at 18:28, virginton said:

Wall to wall coverage of every Swampy figure under the sun and yet I'm still none the wiser as to:

a) Why the previous 2C target to limit warming now constitutes an existential threat to mankind, whose only hope is to limit warming to, err, 1.5C instead. 

b) Why, if the above existential threat exists, the assorted Swampies haven't demanded that nuclear power should be rolled out as an obvious low-carbon stopgap for developed and developing countries alike over the following few decades. 

Could it be that the eco-lobby wish to have it both ways and are trying to railroad through hugely costly measures on the general public by publicising catastrophist, fucking nonsense? 

Your post is rather unfortunate in tone.

Basic thermal science explains that 1.5 oC is a huge concern. Basically, the earth isn't able to reject enough of the radiant heat absorbed from the sun (and other sources) due to the change in the composition of the earth's atmosphere (such as CO2, CH4, SF6 and water vapour). Landmass and water are collecting this heat and the earth needs to be able to radiate some of this heat back to the sky (it is easy to radiate heat to a black or dark surface, like finding frost on your car in the morning where heat radiates to the dark night sky).

The earth's atmosphere is acting as an insulating layer, reducing the amount of heat rejected. This leads to gradual expansion of seawater, melting of ice caps and glaciers adding to the mass of water in the oceans and leading to rising seawater levels. This also changes the thermal gradients around the globe which changes atmospheric pressures and therefore wind patterns. This in turn increases the amount of seawater and fresh water evaporation leading to more rainfall but not necessarily in the parts of the world where it is needed due to those changing wind patterns. 

Fission nuclear power is a complex issue. I can't recall a nuclear project in many decades (if ever) that was delivered anywhere close to time and budget. The nuclear fuel cycle is also complex. Extraction, transport, processing, generation and waste handling (a billions of years legacy problem) are expensive and high risk. In the current world, these establishments are targets for terrorists and hostile powers and proliferation greatly increases these risks as there are then more targets. Nuclear fission is a hugely expensive technology, much more than renewables or conventional thermal generation technologies. It does not create a significant direct greenhouse gas problem but transportation and processing do.

Nuclear fusion technology, may offer some hope, but is still struggling to yield much more than the energy input. If successful, it has fewer waste issue than fusion as the by products have much, much lower radiation half-lives than post fission isotopes (a hundred years compared to billions). We'll see how this develops.

Our energy problem is growing as the world's population and therefore consumption grow. We need to reduce consumption whilst finding affordable energy solutions which are sustainable (environmentally, socially and economically). We may need to accept lower overall efficiencies if we want to move to a significant hydrogen economy, but if we can convert direct solar, wind and tidal generation to hydrogen, the primary fuel is free it's what we do next that counts. Other storage media are of course available which the industry is actively expanding (battery and pumped storage hydro being the primary technologies, but there are others)

Carbon Capture and storage is still worth exploring and would allow us to maintain larger generation sets feeding the grid and reducing voltage control issues and reducing the power electronics costs where we have large numbers of smaller generators.

All of us can play a part by consuming responsibly and voting pragmatically. We need a responsible transition and people pressure can work. If we don't buy it, companies can't afford to make it and governments can't tax it.

[WhiteRoseKillie]

^^^ P&B's most comprehensive telt ever. Great post,@saltire.

[wastecoatwilly]

On 03/11/2021 at 19:21, Tommy Carcetti said:

Chris Mitchell. I can't see a union rep being too pleased at scabbing tbh.

Hopefully he continues the blossoming practice of union leaders cutting wrestling promos.

 

I heard they accepted £1000 a year extra then said they wanted more.

[Wee Bully]

4 hours ago, WhiteRoseKillie said:

^^^ P&B's most comprehensive telt ever. Great post,@saltire.

And it will be another one that virginton will slither away from. He’s not having a good few months with his sneering contrarianism.