DG.Roma Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 On 29/03/2022 at 22:40, Loonytoons said: ok not Scottish football but on the England v Ivory Coast highlights, the interminable wait for a VAR decision is actually seen as part of the highlights. Didn't watch it, or their other game, but heard they'd been awarded a penalty with VAR against Switzerland and wondered what was the point of having VAR in a friendly game? Was it so the officials could get some practice, or has it just become so much a part of their game that they feel the need to use it all the time now? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonytoons Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Didn't watch it, or their other game, but heard they'd been awarded a penalty with VAR against Switzerland and wondered what was the point of having VAR in a friendly game? Was it so the officials could get some practice, or has it just become so much a part of their game that they feel the need to use it all the time now?Not a clue. I found it a bit strange too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentGuerin Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 7 hours ago, DG.Roma said: Didn't watch it, or their other game, but heard they'd been awarded a penalty with VAR against Switzerland and wondered what was the point of having VAR in a friendly game? Was it so the officials could get some practice, or has it just become so much a part of their game that they feel the need to use it all the time now? VAR is shite, and I am completely against it. But if you're going to have it, then it seems you might as well use it in friendlies etc when the gear is readily available. Officials might as well take every chance to use it and go through the process. Power of absolute shite, mind. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 On 15/03/2022 at 09:33, Insert Amusing Pseudonym said: What an absolutely shite salary that is On 15/03/2022 at 15:24, Drew Brees said: Who cares what some *** is earning?? They are looking for someone with a degree. I think it's not very attractive to someone with further education. Working weekends tae. f**k that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 11 hours ago, bennett said: The excuses for not having var get weirder by the day. It’s shite, is all you need to know. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 3 hours ago, VincentGuerin said: VAR is shite, and I am completely against it. But if you're going to have it, then it seems you might as well use it in friendlies etc when the gear is readily available. Officials might as well take every chance to use it and go through the process. Power of absolute shite, mind. They have had it in England now for almost three years. How much practice do they need? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonytoons Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 They have had it in England now for almost three years. How much practice do they need?Clearly quite a bit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 12 hours ago, 10menwent2mow said: If it's just the stadium announcer that makes those announcements then ours is stood by the touchline with a clipboard. It'll be pish either way. The VAR centre sends messages to the stadium and broadcasters which is how they appear on the big screens and how the commentators know a review is ongoing. It'll be something like "VAR check - goal" or "VAR review - no goal, offside/handball/foul". Mind you, most people will be able to find out soon enough on their phones if they are still confused. 11 hours ago, craigkillie said: At most Scottish grounds that would sound something like "hmmfffmf hmmffmfff fffmmfff". Sounds like improvements need to be made on the grounds of public safety as well then if the crowd can't hear the tannoy announcements. 11 minutes ago, kingjoey said: They have had it in England now for almost three years. How much practice do they need? It wasn't English officials, it was a Swedish UEFA cat 1 ref (doesn't have VAR in his domestic league) with two Belgian VARs (who do use it in their league), so very sensible to use it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 10 minutes ago, Ginaro said: It wasn't English officials, it was a Swedish UEFA cat 1 ref (doesn't have VAR in his domestic league) with two Belgian VARs (who do use it in their league), so very sensible to use it. Why incur extra non-essential costs for a pointless friendly? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cptn Hooch Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 16 hours ago, kingjoey said: Why incur extra non-essential costs for a pointless friendly? When a national team's manager uses a friendly to further implement his ideas to his team or blood new players into the system nobody bats an eyelid but when Fifa use a friendly to train inexperienced officials in the new technology it's an issue? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 59 minutes ago, Cptn Hooch said: When a national team's manager uses a friendly to further implement his ideas to his team or blood new players into the system nobody bats an eyelid but when Fifa use a friendly to train inexperienced officials in the new technology it's an issue? It’s not an issue, it was just pointless. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cptn Hooch Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 8 minutes ago, kingjoey said: It’s not an issue, it was just pointless. if you believe training people in the new technology that is available to aid them in doing their job is pointless then I fear for your employer. You don't seem to be a fan of VAR and the way it's been implemented. Surely proper training and experience with the technology would be a good thing...yet you question the validity of it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 32 minutes ago, kingjoey said: It’s not an issue, it was just pointless. Where else is a Swedish ref going to get experience of using VAR if his domestic league doesn't use it? UEFA obviously needs to make sure it has enough officials with VAR experience for its competitions - I make it 27/32 UEFA Elite and 36/57 First Category refs who use VAR in their league, so without experience in friendlies a ref is going to be at a disadvantage compared to those. The VARs probably operated from UEFA HQ in Nyon, so your costs are basically sending a couple of Belgians to Switzerland. Incidentally Romania is introducing VAR next season (they have two refs in each category) while Scotland has 1 Elite and 3 First Category refs without that experience. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 25 minutes ago, Ginaro said: Where else is a Swedish ref going to get experience of using VAR if his domestic league doesn't use it? UEFA obviously needs to make sure it has enough officials with VAR experience for its competitions - I make it 27/32 UEFA Elite and 36/57 First Category refs who use VAR in their league, so without experience in friendlies a ref is going to be at a disadvantage compared to those. The VARs probably operated from UEFA HQ in Nyon, so your costs are basically sending a couple of Belgians to Switzerland. Incidentally Romania is introducing VAR next season (they have two refs in each category) while Scotland has 1 Elite and 3 First Category refs without that experience. Willie Collum was referee at a Champions League or Europa League match last midweek which had VAR. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Cptn Hooch said: if you believe training people in the new technology that is available to aid them in doing their job is pointless then I fear for your employer. You don't seem to be a fan of VAR and the way it's been implemented. Surely proper training and experience with the technology would be a good thing...yet you question the validity of it No idea about you, but I’ll agree to disagree. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cptn Hooch Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 Kevin Clancy is the only reason anyone needs for VAR 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydun Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, Cptn Hooch said: Kevin Clancy is the only reason anyone needs for VAR Wait until you see Brother Beaton's performance today. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 15 minutes ago, johnnydun said: Wait until you see Brother Beaton's performance today. What would var have changed today? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydun Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: What would var have changed today? Your number 10's dive. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 Just now, johnnydun said: Your number 10's dive. I don’t think they use var to book people for diving. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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