craigkillie Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 This is the sort of reason why broadcasting the audio of discussions between referees can be challenging, because you end up with situations like this where people read all sorts of things into a fairly simple conversation. The foul wasn't a penalty, but that is a judgement call which requires the referee to come to the monitor, and is clearly going to be more up for interpretation, so of course they're going to start off by looking for the "easy way out" of finding an offside if there is one. In fact, it's their job to check for offsides anyway. I don't see the big issue here, if there was an offside, it would be the correct decision not to give the penalty anyway. As it was, there wasn't an offside and the referee had to go to the monitor to overturn the award of a penalty. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzler Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 time to allow refs to explain decisions after the games 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 One on hand, I wouldn't be surprised if this sort of shit happened. On the other, Andy Walker is a slavering moron 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lithgierose Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 12 minutes ago, bobbydazzler said: time to allow refs to explain decisions after the games Or live like the refs in rugby Or even American football 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 1 minute ago, lithgierose said: Or live like the refs in rugby Or even American football 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antiochas III Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 18 minutes ago, craigkillie said: This is the sort of reason why broadcasting the audio of discussions between referees can be challenging, because you end up with situations like this where people read all sorts of things into a fairly simple conversation. The foul wasn't a penalty, but that is a judgement call which requires the referee to come to the monitor, and is clearly going to be more up for interpretation, so of course they're going to start off by looking for the "easy way out" of finding an offside if there is one. In fact, it's their job to check for offsides anyway. I don't see the big issue here, if there was an offside, it would be the correct decision not to give the penalty anyway. As it was, there wasn't an offside and the referee had to go to the monitor to overturn the award of a penalty. I think the "issue" is the offside check shoukld be done before referee is asked to come over and check his own f**k up. Instead of hoping something else clears him of his own f**k up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 I assume this discussion would have happened before the referee did the review. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 (edited) Wait, we're all just believing Andy Walker without question? Except Mark Connolly, who has indeed questioned this. Edited April 6, 2023 by DA Baracus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentGuerin Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 1 hour ago, craigkillie said: This is the sort of reason why broadcasting the audio of discussions between referees can be challenging, because you end up with situations like this where people read all sorts of things into a fairly simple conversation. The foul wasn't a penalty, but that is a judgement call which requires the referee to come to the monitor, and is clearly going to be more up for interpretation, so of course they're going to start off by looking for the "easy way out" of finding an offside if there is one. In fact, it's their job to check for offsides anyway. I don't see the big issue here, if there was an offside, it would be the correct decision not to give the penalty anyway. As it was, there wasn't an offside and the referee had to go to the monitor to overturn the award of a penalty. It's a classic example of someone taking a quote and removing it of all its context to make it seem sinister. Anyone with a brain can understand what would have been meant in this instance, however clumsy the wording used by someone trying to do a complicated job quickly while communicating with someone else while thousands of people sit around waiting. Doesn't matter now, though. Celtic Twitter owns this now. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 13 hours ago, VincentGuerin said: It's a classic example of someone taking a quote and removing it of all its context to make it seem sinister. Anyone with a brain can understand what would have been meant in this instance, however clumsy the wording used by someone trying to do a complicated job quickly while communicating with someone else while thousands of people sit around waiting. Doesn't matter now, though. Celtic Twitter owns this now. Aye. I don't think this is the 'gotcha' moment Celtic fans think it is either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 23 hours ago, Dons_1988 said: Celtic bloggers everywhere will be absolutely delighted. A quick look suggests a third of them think hes criticising Celtic, somehow, and they want him banned from Celtic Park, while another third want "them" banned from Celtic Park because of the anti-Celtic agenda "they" struggle to hide. The other 3rd are talking about Rangers finances. 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 52 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: A quick look suggests a third of them think hes criticising Celtic, somehow, and they want him banned from Celtic Park, while another third want "them" banned from Celtic Park because of the anti-Celtic agenda "they" struggle to hide. The other 3rd are talking about Rangers finances. Seems reasonable 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 23 hours ago, Antiochas III said: I think the "issue" is the offside check shoukld be done before referee is asked to come over and check his own f**k up. Instead of hoping something else clears him of his own f**k up. Who says it wasn’t? In fact, the quote suggests that’s exactly what happens. VAR: I don’t think it’s a penalty. The easiest way out is for offside. *Checks* VAR: It’s onside, so I suggest you go to the monitor. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 Quote Hampden chiefs believe Walker has misinterpreted the dialogue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 40 minutes ago, AJF said: You can tell a lot about someone by their response to a tabloid story involving Celtic and referees. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_and_counting Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 No surprise walker getting it so wrong again 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, 54_and_counting said: No surprise walker getting it so wrong again Unfortunately you find that old firm pundits are willing to make themselves look extremely stupid in order to pander to their demographic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 14 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: Unfortunately you find that old firm pundits are willing to make themselves look extremely stupid in order to pander to their demographic. It’s a tried and tested strategy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 10 minutes ago, AJF said: It’s a tried and tested strategy I heard some employers leave copies of the daily record in their reception area for job interviews and observe the candidates while they’re waiting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 10 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: I heard some employers leave copies of the daily record in their reception area for job interviews and observe the candidates while they’re waiting. Has this replaced "what school did you go to?" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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