The Master Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 10 hours ago, craigkillie said: St Mirren have just had a goal awarded after VAR confirmed it had crossed the line. I don't think it was originally given. Yes, and? Nowhere did I say that VAR wouldn’t be used to give goals where the officials didn’t notice the ball was over the line. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stylish Kid Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 Penalty for Rangers overturned and Ryan Kent booked for a dive. I'm officially a convert 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 A good advert for VAR at Tynecastle last night, 4 offsides correctly checked and a penalty rescinded. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreenElves Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 22 hours ago, ropy said: Do other countries see VAR ratified red cards overturned? Its a shame other VAR decisions can’t be overturned. VAR had a bad week. Has happened in the English Premiership, VAR said that Luiz had headbutted somebody, and he was sent off. It was appealed and overturned. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/sport/football/63352901.amp 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 2 hours ago, bennett said: A good advert for VAR at Tynecastle last night, 4 offsides correctly checked and a penalty rescinded. Var keeping the goal difference down zippy you never know. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 6 hours ago, The Master said: Yes, and? Nowhere did I say that VAR wouldn’t be used to give goals where the officials didn’t notice the ball was over the line. This was literally the crux of the entire discussion, that me and several others were saying goalline technology wasn't really essential because VAR could be used, and you kept going on and on about stuff to do with a third point of reference and questioning which frame of the footage they could use. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 1 hour ago, craigkillie said: This was literally the crux of the entire discussion, that me and several others were saying goalline technology wasn't really essential because VAR could be used, and you kept going on and on about stuff to do with a third point of reference and questioning which frame of the footage they could use. I think you need to read those exchanges again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 I have read those exchanges again, and I still think that is exactly what you were saying. I'm struggling to think of any other interpretation of comments like those below, given that the ongoing discussion was about whether GLT was actually really necessary when VAR was in operation: "While you could in theory draw lines to see if the ball has crossed the line, how would you know exactly which frame to take the still from?" "And how do you know the entire ball has crossed the line in the frame you've selected? Remember - we're talking about games without goal-line cameras." "I'm genuinely trying to understand how you think VAR chooses the correct frame when there is no point of reference for doing so." Then there is this very specific exchange, where a poster explains very clearly the type of incident which occurred last night, and you seemed to suggest it was some sort of impossibility to find a still image which showed the ball had crossed the line. On 15/10/2022 at 22:58, DA Baracus said: Surely any line/angle used that shows the entire ball has crossed the line is fine? Any still that shows it is the one to decide it. If no stills show it, it hasn't crossed the line and isn't a goal. Not getting where there can be ambiguity. On 15/10/2022 at 23:02, The Master said: And how do you find that still? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, craigkillie said: I have read those exchanges again, and I still think that is exactly what you were saying. I'm struggling to think of any other interpretation of comments like those below, given that the ongoing discussion was about whether GLT was actually really necessary when VAR was in operation: "While you could in theory draw lines to see if the ball has crossed the line, how would you know exactly which frame to take the still from?" "And how do you know the entire ball has crossed the line in the frame you've selected? Remember - we're talking about games without goal-line cameras." "I'm genuinely trying to understand how you think VAR chooses the correct frame when there is no point of reference for doing so." Then there is this very specific exchange, where a poster explains very clearly the type of incident which occurred last night, and you seemed to suggest it was some sort of impossibility to find a still image which showed the ball had crossed the line. The discussion was specifically around the use of the same technology (i.e., drawing of lines) used for offside. At no point did I say VAR couldn't be used at all in determining whether or not the ball crossed the line. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 On 31/01/2023 at 03:22, Jacky1990 said: I'm still in the camp of VAR being good in theory but have absolutely no faith in Scottish referees to make anything other than a clusterfuck of it. It CAN be used well. Ive seen it be used well. But f**k me they havent half fucked it up. The only time I’ve seen it used (fairly) well is in the World Cup. Everything else is crap. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingscot Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 Aberdeen appealing a VAR call. I'd be surprised if that was overturned given it was head contact, but never know these days! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 4 hours ago, flyingscot said: Aberdeen appealing a VAR call. I'd be surprised if that was overturned given it was head contact, but never know these days! Based on that still image I really don’t know how he’s given a red card tbh. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 “But it’ll get better, it’s teething issues” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Stiles Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 A full-time highly paid ref in England fails the 'you had one job' test in a major and potentially very expensive f**k up yet they expect Scotland's part-time Old Firm loving SFA puppets to get it right every time. Of course with some of the decisions we've seen, maybe they don't want them to. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 I wonder if investing in a system that clearly makes the game worse and solves none of the issues it was designed to solve, and investing in it fully in the knowledge of all of that, will go down as Scottish footballs dumbest moment. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 12 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: Scottish footballs dumbest moment. I think there might be competition m9..................... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_G Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs-and-others-in-robust-talks-with-sfa-chief-crawford-allan-in-bid-to-find-solution-to-var-chaos-4027457 For maximum chaos they should remove VAR at say the last game before the split. It was introduced mid-season so might as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StellarHibee Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Artificial Intelligence has came a long way. Fire these useless b*****ds and replace them with VAR AI's on the pitch. Ideally in the image of a young Michelle Pfeiffer or Jennifer Aniston. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 Celtic midfielder Matt O'Riley says delays with VAR checks during games are frustrating the champions' high-tempo approach. (Daily Record) Ive been saying this for weeks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonytoons Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 Quite impressive how a shirt tug on one player that had no chance of winning the ball resulted in a VAR review by the ref and a penalty and another in a different game didn't warrant another look by the ref according to VAR. What rules of shirt tugging can be so differently interpreted? It's surely "pull of the shirt, have a look" or not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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