Dundee Hibernian Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Meanwhile, the officials who made a rip-roaring arse of themselves and VAR, are given another chance to put things wrong(er) with Beaton the on-field referee at Dingwall on Saturday and Munro setting down in front of the screen in Ballieston as the main VAR man for Sunday's Tynecastle match. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Stiles Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 13 hours ago, Busta Nut said: I admittedly am very confused over the Tony Watt one. When I saw it in the game I was astounded it wasn't a foul as I would have said Watt went in high and caught Goss with his studs. When I saw the dodgy angle replay I thought it was a red. When I saw the definitive angle I knew I was right. Now the appeals panel are suggesting raking your studs down someones leg, starting 4/5's of the way up someones shin is only a yellow card. Is it the mid 80s again? I know. The after match pics of the stud marks running down Goss's leg were damning. Oh wait... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Meanwhile, the officials who made a rip-roaring arse of themselves and VAR, are given another chance to put things wrong(er) with Beaton the on-field referee at Dingwall on Saturday and Munro setting down in front of the screen in Ballieston as the main VAR man for Sunday's Tynecastle match.And Mark Birighitti will probably be involved for Dundee United too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoF Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Charles Stiles said: I know. The after match pics of the stud marks running down Goss's leg were damning. Oh wait... I imagine the stud marks just below the knee would say more 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dundee Hibernian Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 1 minute ago, craigkillie said: And Mark Birighitti will probably be involved for Dundee United too. He wasn't the worst, by far. I get your point: however, if he got a chance to review his reactions, and if other players could be given various video views in order to alter their positions and decisions, then there would be different outcomes in all matches. But players aren't afforded the luxury of changing their patterns and behaviours after the event, the refereeing fraternity (!) have an opportunity to rectify their mistakes. There's more chance of a player being dropped than a referee though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Meathead Posted November 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 3, 2022 Despite not being directly affected by VAR yet, I do feel it having an impact on my enjoyment of supporting Ayr. It’s a peculiar position to find myself in, on the one hand revelling in the form that could see us return to the top flight for the first time in 45 years and, on the other hand, quietly hoping we don’t. I’ve been going to watch Ayr regularly for about 12 years. I’ve gone through three promotions, two relegations, cancelled trains in Dingwall, laps of Asda to keep warm in Alloa, thrashings in Stranraer and humiliations in Auchinleck. My enthusiasm has waned at times, my attendance has dipped on occasion, and I’ve had to defecate in some of the most deplorable toilets this country has to offer. But I wouldn’t change any of it. I’ve done it all in the pursuit of those elusive moments of pure, unencumbered joy. A late winner, an unexpected 30 yarder, a dubious penalty award. When everything else in life suddenly disappears and 100% of my being is concentrated on the euphoria all around and within me. Those moments don’t come often, but when they do, the sheer ecstasy they provide is unrivalled by anything I’ve experienced in any other walk of life. I admire anyone who can still celebrate a goal with reckless abandon while knowing it might be chopped off later by VAR, but I can’t. There is no variation on VAR, no time limits or restricted purview or any other kind of tinkering that would let those moments survive unscathed through my eyes. Maybe it’s not important to everyone, or even the majority of fans, but it is to me. Winning games feels nice but it’s not the be-all and end-all for me. I wouldn’t trade all the VAR-assisted 1-0 wins in the world for the bedlam in the away end at Ibrox when Alan Forrest equalised in a game Ayr eventually lost. If those moments are diluted or taken away all together while we wait for a VAR check then my primary reason for going back week after week has disappeared. For the first time, I find myself seriously questioning whether I want to keep going. Even if Ayr don’t get promoted this season, the club have ambitions to get there eventually. I don’t think hoping the club have hit their ceiling is a sustainable position for a fan to maintain. I don’t know what I’ll do in the end, but it makes me incredibly sad that the game I love has become like this. 23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 well said 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 This. But about VAR 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 What.A. Fucking.Shambles. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 A belter of a decision at Pittodrie tonight. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 Even aside from the penalty award, it's utterly joyless to require retakes of saved penalties for encroachment. The sort of thing only dweebs and losers care about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, craigkillie said: Even aside from the penalty award, it's utterly joyless to require retakes of saved penalties for encroachment. The sort of thing only dweebs and losers care about. Hmmm. Didn't seem to care about the Hearts retake at the time, Craig. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 Hmmm. Didn't seem to care about the Hearts retake at the time, Craig.The discussion about that was entirely from the perspective of the rules, I didn't say it was what I wanted to happen. However, there was a discussion of "why didn't they just play advantage" or similar, and I was pointing out that you can't do that when an attacking player commits an offence. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, craigkillie said: The discussion about that was entirely from the perspective of the rules, I didn't say it was what I wanted to happen. However, there was a discussion of "why didn't they just play advantage" or similar, and I was pointing out that you can't do that when an attacking player commits an offence. Was there a penalty retaken for encroachment at Killie? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 No. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJFCtheTeamForMe Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 (edited) Still playing the first half in the 56th minute is a fucking shambles. That is all. Edited November 5, 2022 by SJFCtheTeamForMe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Grimes Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 1 hour ago, craigkillie said: Even aside from the penalty award, it's utterly joyless to require retakes of saved penalties for encroachment. The sort of thing only dweebs and losers care about. I, for one, took great joy from it tonight Crazy how long the decision took though Worth the wait VAR Dandies ✌ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illgresi Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 Once again VAR contributes to the correct scoreline at Pittodrie last night. Would obviously be nice to see the checking times speed up somewhat, but it's doing a good job so far. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Illgresi said: Once again VAR contributes to the correct scoreline at Pittodrie last night. Would obviously be nice to see the checking times speed up somewhat, but it's doing a good job so far. You are absolutely right, VAR did it's job perfectly last night, and I absolutely loved the Hibs fan berating VAR checking their goal for offside claiming "it's obviously offside, this is a waste of time", only for the VAR to show he was onside after which the same poster then complained that VAR got it right. Some people simply hate VAR and so intensely blinded by that they don't realise the problem here isn't the ability to check incidents, in real time, with multiple angles and slow mo. No, the problem is the utterly incompetent referees and officials who are unable to see what everyone else sees in those replays. A chain is only as strong as it's weakest link, and it's becoming abundantly clear that the weakest link is overwhelmingly the inability of referees to interpret images correctly. The time taken is also hugely down to the officials. What's more we always knew that many officials get key decisions wrong, we see it almost weekly in the Sportscene studio, all VAR has done is given the officials enough rope to hang themselves with, they are being found out, in real time, by fans watching on big screens. It really is a reckoning that is overdue for officials, and in many ways VAR should be congratulated for that. Edited November 5, 2022 by Ric 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisal Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 10 hours ago, Frank Grimes said: I, for one, took great joy from it tonight Crazy how long the decision took though Worth the wait VAR Dandies ✌ Avardeen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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