CoF Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 On 29/10/2022 at 18:04, CoF said: Aye. Benefitted us today, but the fact this was missed then checked and turned into a red is bonkers. I stand corrected. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 Came on to post that anaw. Even the other angles you can see the contact. I am shocked at how many folk didn't think that under today's rule it was a red. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobby Dossar Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 Any player that catches someone just below the knee and racks his studs down their shins knows exactly what their doing Straight red everyday of the week 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kapowzer Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 4 hours ago, craigkillie said: I'm not fine with anyone paying any money for it, I think it's shite and a scourge on Scottish football. However, given that Killie freely signed up to a deal where the costs come out of prize money proportionally, I don't have the tiniest grain of sympathy for the club (or any other club) in terms of how much it costs them. There also wasn't "one offer on the table" - the original plan was for it to be split equally, and the clubs didn't fancy that. There was also always the very clear "offer" of every single club paying £0. You genuinely think there was a chance it would get voted down? Even if it was for 22 - 20 against in fairytaleland, the SFA would have organised reruns until they got their majority. It is clear it was coming, the means in which it arrived was up for debate. VAR for my club represents 1.3% of turnover, in Glasgow it’s 0.2% other teams in the top division are helping fund and accelerate the OF’s gap to the determinant to everyone else. If you want fairness or parity then 0.3% ish would have been fair for the whole league. The fact it arrived like Lee Griffiths at preseason training, flabby, ponderous and brimming with misjudgements is a prawn sandwich suit clanger. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Kapowzer said: You genuinely think there was a chance it would get voted down? Even if it was for 22 - 20 against in fairytaleland, the SFA would have organised reruns until they got their majority. It is clear it was coming, the means in which it arrived was up for debate. VAR for my club represents 1.3% of turnover, in Glasgow it’s 0.2% other teams in the top division are helping fund and accelerate the OF’s gap to the determinant to everyone else. If you want fairness or parity then 0.3% ish would have been fair for the whole league. The SFA had no say in the matter, it was an SPFL vote, and it wasn't 22-20 against, it was 41-1 in favour. The clubs wanted this, nobody has since come out and said they voted for it because they thought it was going to happen anyway, they've more or less unanimously said it's what they want. The SPFL board mainly consists of members from these very clubs, voted in by these very clubs, so who do you think are these nefarious unseen hands who are controlling everything? The costs come out of prize money, so I'm not really sure why turnover would have much to do with it. Do Motherwell (or Killie) request less prize money than other Premiership clubs because we have a smaller turnover than them? Edited October 30, 2022 by craigkillie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 3 hours ago, ATLIS said: I was for VAR 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tree house tam Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 VAR is working out nicely. Spots the cheats in our game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 30 minutes ago, tree house tam said: VAR is working out nicely. Spots the cheats in our game. It missed Stevie May. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broughty Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 VAR is working in our favour at the minute. My opinion yesterday both correct and without VAR the decisions would have gone against us. Del wasn't pleased so every cloud has a silver lining. All grounds should be made to have big screens. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJFCtheTeamForMe Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 When will we see the first instance of a referee sticking with his initial opinion after being sent to watch? it seems they feel obligated/pressured to reverse once they go to watch it. That's not just our referees though. I think I've witnessed 1 instance of the referee sticking to their decision from other Leagues VAR on tv. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugna Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 2 hours ago, craigkillie said: The SFA had no say in the matter, it was an SPFL vote, and it wasn't 22-20 against, it was 41-1 in favour. The clubs wanted this, nobody has since come out and said they voted for it because they thought it was going to happen anyway, they've more or less unanimously said it's what they want. The SPFL board mainly consists of members from these very clubs, voted in by these very clubs, so who do you think are these nefarious unseen hands who are controlling everything? Appreciate your efforts to tilt facts against fantasy. It's a Sisyphean task. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIVIFOREVER Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 8 hours ago, ATLIS said: I was for VAR, but f**k me it is boring. One game I've attended when it's in use and it's utterly stinking. We've got no screens to even figure out what's happening either. I wasn't wanting it as i didn't think it would make that much of a difference to offset the impact it would have on the fans at the game, with constant VAR reviews and goals being chopped off, and not being able to celebrate goals properly. However i didn't particularly feel it interrupted play much today, and knew as soon as Collum went to the monitor the pen was being given. Haven't seen us score yet to see whether it affects us celebrating, but didn't seem to stop Celtic fans jumping about when they scored. Ironic though that Martindale was all for it, hoping we'd get things like the wrongful pen against us v Motherwell not been given, and so far we've had a red card and a pen against us that wasn't being given by the ref till VAR reviewed it and advised him to go over to the monitor for a look. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blink182 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 This fan is definitely the same type who moans about VAR taking away the celebration of a goal etc isn't he. 1PZbiFPBvojZYYbn.mp4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 35 minutes ago, Blink182 said: This fan is definitely the same type who moans about VAR taking away the celebration of a goal etc isn't he. 1PZbiFPBvojZYYbn.mp4 1.98 MB · 0 downloads That's just weird. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 40 minutes ago, Blink182 said: This fan is definitely the same type who moans about VAR taking away the celebration of a goal etc isn't he. 1PZbiFPBvojZYYbn.mp4 1.98 MB · 0 downloads Living the moment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Every SPFL ground should have a jumbotron so that fans can watch the VAR decisions play out in real time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Stiles Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 3 hours ago, Donathan said: Every SPFL ground should have a jumbotron so that fans can watch the VAR decisions play out in real time. I'm not sure Annan or Bonnyrigg fans would be too interested in seeing an offside decision in Ross County v Killie being debated, contentious or not. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve McQueen Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 It struck me that so many people didn't know that making the TV signal after looking at the screen meant the decision had been reversed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thenorthernlight Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 I see Dundee Utd have appealed the Tony Watt red card. Absolute waste of time. Not a chance the SFA will demean the VAR process & overturn it. And having seen it from a reverse angle, I can probably see why it was a red card (& that’s the angle the fat h*n Beaton would’ve seen too). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 There have been VAR reds overturned on appeal in England, it will definitely happen at some point. The chance of success seems low for that one though, given that the bar for overturning it is, ironically, similarly high to the bar that should be there for a VAR red. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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